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Apple alerts users in 92 nations to mercenary spyware attacks

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Re: Apple alerts users in 92 nations to mercenary spyware attacks

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It's probably far worse with Android users that Google is not disclosing. I'm seriously considering changing to Apple after this. Not that its secure but that they are willing to go to this length to communicate it.

Are you a journalist or high profile target? If not, this notification isn't for the average person.

Re: Apple alerts users in 92 nations to mercenary spyware attacks

#102
post #12

Pegasus and NSO. (Edit: of course I'm flagged for this. Surprise surprise)

You're being downvoted because you made a three-word comment that adds nearly nothing to the discussion on a site that hopes to entice meaningful discourse. Trying to play the victim on top of that is just silly.

Re: Apple alerts users in 92 nations to mercenary spyware attacks

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post #16

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That person already got targeted last summer. I doubt they are as uninteresting as they believe/claim to be.

It doesn't take much to be a target. CIA spy maybe not, but the net is wide when it comes to surveillance. Infrastructure providers, higher education, research labs are all common targets.

>It doesn't take much to be a target.

I wonder how to quantify this. Even folks in those industries listed while there may be reason we could imagine to target them... I would imagine lots of folks in those same industries are NOT targeted.

Of course we'd have to identify "targeted", personally I wouldn't include "your name ended up on a list after someone grepped a bunch of data". I would think of as targeted as a more curated type list / process / and then the call was made to "target" someone.

Otherwise, heck random scanning on the internet would be "targeted".

Re: Apple alerts users in 92 nations to mercenary spyware attacks

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus https://twitter.com/AlexBlechman/status/1457842724128833538

The tech company is right since this appears to be a reference to the Total Perspective Vortex from Hitchhiker's Guide, which notably didn't do anything bad when it was turned on.

Only for Zaphod and only because he was in a simulation where he was in fact the most important person :)

Re: Apple alerts users in 92 nations to mercenary spyware attacks

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post #101
post #96

It's probably far worse with Android users that Google is not disclosing. I'm seriously considering changing to Apple after this. Not that its secure but that they are willing to go to this length to communicate it.

Are you a journalist or high profile target? If not, this notification isn't for the average person.

Why is it hard to see that while he may not be a target for any sort of state sponsored attack, it’s a bellwether of apples stance on security.

I really, really don’t think he meant he was switching to Apple because he’s a CIA spy stationed in Moscow.

Re: Apple alerts users in 92 nations to mercenary spyware attacks

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post #24

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Same goes for certain types of lead characters in things like American Psycho, Fight Club, Mad Men and Wolf of Wall St. These are seen as aspirational instead of cautionary tales.

I go to a restaurant where the owner has recently hung a sign reading “The World is Yours” as though Tony Montana from Scarface should be regarded a fount of wisdom.

If you want to deify Tony Montana, there is one quote that is the John 3:16 of his proselytizing, and the world is yours is not that quote. I guess you can't put it in a restaurant.

Re: Apple alerts users in 92 nations to mercenary spyware attacks

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post #81

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That's just weird. the US is definitely a lower cost country than Norway yet my youngest son works for a company here in Norway that does quite a lot of business making metal and plastic tags of various kinds with text engraved, printed, or laser cut. As far as I know most of the machinery is made in Europe, mostly Germany, again generally higher cost than the US. So I find it difficult to believe that it can't be do…

My guess is that it's likely cultural. Cost cutting seems to be done much more deeply in the US than in Europe. For example, economy class on all North American airlines is rather miserable, while most European non budget carriers have a better experience in economy.

I feel like, for better or worse, the US is sort of obsessed with figuring out how to drive costs down as low as possible, at least historically. So much early American industry was based around making mass-production more and more efficient, e.g. early assembly lines for the Ford company being an obvious case.

In a lot of ways, this is obviously good, most people benefit from lower prices, more value being created, etc, but I think it's also made it so that cheap-but-ethically-dubious manufacturing from other countries becomes increasingly appealing, especially since it's abstracted enough from the end-user to where they can comfortably say "out of site out of mind".

I'm no better; I know very well the conditions of some other countries, and think they're very bad. I also think it's bad that America fought a whole war to end slavery, and instead we just launder it through other countries. Still, despite me thinking all of this, I still generally shop for reasonable prices instead of trying to focus on ethical stuff.

Re: Apple alerts users in 92 nations to mercenary spyware attacks

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post #101
post #96

It's probably far worse with Android users that Google is not disclosing. I'm seriously considering changing to Apple after this. Not that its secure but that they are willing to go to this length to communicate it.

Are you a journalist or high profile target? If not, this notification isn't for the average person.

Right it’s unthinkable you’d find high profile targets on hacker news.

All you’ll find here are founders of highly funded startups and software developers at boring companies such as Google, Microsoft and Apple.

No point getting into these people’s phones if you’re a state actor for sure /shrug

Re: Apple alerts users in 92 nations to mercenary spyware attacks

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post #24
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus https://twitter.com/AlexBlechman/status/1457842724128833538

Same goes for certain types of lead characters in things like American Psycho, Fight Club, Mad Men and Wolf of Wall St. These are seen as aspirational instead of cautionary tales.

And, famously, Michael Lewis's first book, "Liar's Poker":

> Despite the book's quite unflattering depiction of Wall Street firms and many of the people who worked there, many younger readers were fascinated by the life depicted. Many read it as a "how-to manual" and asked the author for additional "secrets" that he might care to share.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar%27s_Poker#Reception

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