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Apple alerts users in 92 nations to mercenary spyware attacks

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Is this spyware possible due to engineering flaws in Apple products?

Technically, yes?

But there has never ever been non-trivial software that has been completely free of such defects.

In other words (in my opinion), iOS is probably better than most other platforms against this type of attack.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus https://twitter.com/AlexBlechman/status/1457842724128833538

Same goes for certain types of lead characters in things like American Psycho, Fight Club, Mad Men and Wolf of Wall St. These are seen as aspirational instead of cautionary tales.

I go to a restaurant where the owner has recently hung a sign reading “The World is Yours” as though Tony Montana from Scarface should be regarded a fount of wisdom.

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Here’s hoping that this isn’t any sort of psychological warfare tactic which Apple has been pressurised to sow into making groups of people assume blame at certain groups for the purpose of swaying elections in certain ways.

Because God knows how many times Five Eyes have tampered with elections across the Middle East in the past 50 years.

I wouldn’t be naive to believe everything totally and just putting another perspective out there which may be worth considering (even for just a few seconds).

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I suppose this is an alternative to security... Real 'Scroll to the bottom of the terms and click accept" vibes.. Is there any company as big as Apple with so many major security issues?

> Is there any company as big as Apple with so many major security issues?

To be fair, does any Android device alert you to a compromise like this?

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"Mercenary spyware attacks, such as those using Pegasus from the NSO Group, are exceptionally rare and vastly more sophisticated than regular cybercriminal activity or consumer malware" So, maybe even provoking an Apple warning to those targets could also be part of a sophisticated operation. These targets react or have to react in a certain way. Instigate to lure people out of hiding and entice them to react, even i…

>What do these targeted people do then? Switching phones?

When you can get a $130 Motorola that has better security... Yes.

Since the 2018 iphone crack by the FBI, I am shocked anyone uses their iphone for secrets.

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Pet peeve: This story alternates between "nations" and "countries" as if they were synonyms. A nation is a group of people sharing cultural, ethnic, and historical ties. There are many more nations than there are countries, especially within the US. A country has a political boundary, a flag and an anthem. It's one thing to use a word in the wrong way, because maybe you don't know the other word exists, and that's ok…

I'm not sure this is true > There are many more nations than there are countries, especially within the US. Each US state has "a political boundary, a flag and an anthem". So that's 50 of them. How many nations are there in the US?

> There are many more nations than there are countries, especially within the US.

I took this to include things like first nations and reservations which are themselves "sovereign".

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I suppose this is an alternative to security... Real 'Scroll to the bottom of the terms and click accept" vibes.. Is there any company as big as Apple with so many major security issues?

> Is there any company as big as Apple with so many major security issues? To be fair, does any Android device alert you to a compromise like this?

Android is more secure, especially in recent history. You can even see it in 0 day bounties.

Don't pay attention to Samsung though, that company is probably the Apple equivalent of android.

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I think as of right now, it's nearly impossible to buy a guilt-free computer of any kind. It's a spectrum, obviously, but I think if you were to audit every component of any computer you buy from basically any company, you'd eventually get something kind of depressing. A relative of mine in the defense industry has told me that, generally speaking, the DoD requires that none of the components in missiles have parts m…

When I have to point to something when I say I doubt manufacturing will ever come back to the west, I point to the fact we can't manufacture the simplest of things ourselves anymore. Thanks Delta Airlines, whose metal nametags are literally just cut sheets of aluminum with some paint on them and are still Made in China. Someone seriously wants to tell me we can manufacture bleeding edge tech when we can't even cut an…

Very often it's not about "can't," and more about "cheaper."

There's plenty of places to get metal nametags made in the U.S.A. But Delta chose to go the cheapest route to save a few pennies.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think as of right now, it's nearly impossible to buy a guilt-free computer of any kind. It's a spectrum, obviously, but I think if you were to audit every component of any computer you buy from basically any company, you'd eventually get something kind of depressing. A relative of mine in the defense industry has told me that, generally speaking, the DoD requires that none of the components in missiles have parts m…

When I have to point to something when I say I doubt manufacturing will ever come back to the west, I point to the fact we can't manufacture the simplest of things ourselves anymore. Thanks Delta Airlines, whose metal nametags are literally just cut sheets of aluminum with some paint on them and are still Made in China. Someone seriously wants to tell me we can manufacture bleeding edge tech when we can't even cut an…

That's just weird. the US is definitely a lower cost country than Norway yet my youngest son works for a company here in Norway that does quite a lot of business making metal and plastic tags of various kinds with text engraved, printed, or laser cut.

As far as I know most of the machinery is made in Europe, mostly Germany, again generally higher cost than the US. So I find it difficult to believe that it can't be done in the US.

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