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Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by zaptrem »

darby_eight wrote: post #154
p1esk wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But that’s not a problem when listening to Spotify? Why can’t we treat these music generation engines the same way we treat music streaming services?

Idk what you're referring to specifically, but music discovery services are terrible across all of spotify, apple music, google music, tidal, etc. I don't expect these services to read your mind, but they also don't ask for many parameters to help with the search. Definitely a huge opportunity here for innovative new services.

TikTok can tolerate a lot more active skipping than Spotify can before they annoy their users. We’d love to solve this. How would you? Maybe we could let users write why they didn’t like the song in natural language since we understand that now.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by yoyohello13 »

93po wrote: post #119
adrianh wrote: post #53

I'm interested to hear more about your statement of "Our goal is to enable more of you, not replace you." Speaking as a musician who plays real instruments (as opposed to electronic production): how does this help me? And how does this enable more of me? I am asking with an open mind, with no cynicism intended.

When Suno came out I spent literally hours/days playing around with it to generate music, and came out with some that's really close to good, and good enough I've gone back to listen to a few. I'd love the tooling to take a premise and be able to tweak it to my liking without spending 1000 hours learning specific software and without thousands of hours learning to play an instrument or learning to sing.

I just don’t get this. Part of the joy of creating things is the work I put in. The easier something is to make, the less meaning it has to me. I feel like just asking a machine to make a bunch of songs is kind of meaningless.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by LastTrain »

garyrob wrote: post #66

My hobby is songwriting. (Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjng3UoKkGk ) I play guitar, but I'm not much of a guitarist or singer. I really like songwriting, not trying to be polished as a performer. So I intermittently look into the AI world to see whether it has tools I could use to generate a higher-quality song demo than I could do on my own. I've been looking for something that could take a chord progres…

That song is quite nice, so is the performance. It would, IMO, would be less good if it were 'fixed' to be more perfect.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by yoyohello13 »

cellis wrote: post #171
shepherdjerred wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand those "AI will never be able to do X" statements. Surely AI will be able to do _anything_ in 1000 years. In 100 years it will almost definitely be able to replace most knowledge-based jobs. Even today it can take away many entry-level jobs, e.g. a small business no longer needs to hire someone to write a jingle, or create a logo. In 10 years, I would expect much of programming to either disappear o…

People who don't believe this really aren't immersed in cutting edge research. I think it could even be 5 on the extreme edge of an optimistic prediction.

I think people just don’t want to believe it. Because they’ve seen how people who’ve been displaced tend to be treated. This tech will cause a lot of pain.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto – A more controllable AI music creator

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Post by weitendorf »

I really like being able to convert from artist name-> style with this, and in theory I like being able to use uploaded files in lieu of a style prompt. But to be honest I haven't been able to get output that seems nearly as high quality as Suno v3 or Udio yet - although it could be user error.

My experiment on sonauto.ai so far - I first selected "The Weeknd", then picked the prompt:

  The Weeknd's smooth vocals lead the song, blending with electronic effects. A low, pulsating bass line opens the track. Synthesizers add layers to the melody, creating a danceable rhythm. Minimalist drum machine beats provide the foundation for the rhythm section."
with vocals a modified, shortened (couldn't use the entire song as the UI truncates input past the length I ended up using in my link) version of "Starboy" mostly replacing some nouns with food-related nouns. The results didn't really sound like The Weeknd at all... example: https://sonauto.ai/songs/U6eDSrrn5V5AVmV8xMgR

I also tried uploading Starboy directly as an mp3 to generate from that prompt instead, using the same lyrics. I may have done something wrong (when I went back to Prompt, my prompt was replaced with the string "Uploaded File", and some of the output is so stylisticly different it makes me think it didn't get applied at all) but it didn't seem to work well, if at all: https://sonauto.ai/songs/klNMfs4bPgji3edPvwAv

Did I do something wrong using the upload file feature? And if anybody has hints for getting better output with the auto-generated prompts LMK. I'd love to use these new features but it seems like they're either configuring an underlying modl not mature enough for generally good output compared to suno/udio or the UX is not making good output easy to achieve.

Here's an example output I get from Suno with similar lyrics and a prompt that merely lists some styles associated with The Weekend. As you can see, the song is much better overall, and the voice sounds more like The Weeknd (although it still fails to style the eg Chorus properly): https://suno.com/song/d4f72fce-0bc7-4786-a299-f58d903c4275

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