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If they really did save lives, you would think the highway patrol officers who rely on their bikes for their safety and entire professional existence would be equipped with them. No, this is just obnoxious leisure bikers wanting to justify their unnecessary noise they inflict on the rest of us.
lowkey this is a testament to how insanely dangerous cars are, if even such a deafening sound still leaves the driver unaware of their surroundings
If they really did save lives, you would think the highway patrol officers who rely on their bikes for their safety and entire professional existence would be equipped with them. No, this is just obnoxious leisure bikers wanting to justify their unnecessary noise they inflict on the rest of us.
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That's one, very narrow way of viewing it. Another would be that cars lack the necessary visibility to be safe. No one in their right mind would advocate to banning cars. Instead, sensors could be employed to make up for the lack of visibility in cars. This should maybe be the topic of discussion, to introduce these types of safety sensors as essential. ABS breaks weren't the norm a few decades ago, so why not start…
I advocate for banning cars.
This is total garbage lol. You can absolutely watch cars move out of the way when motorcycles with loud pipes come through... Its amazing to experience on your own as well.
You realise you're posting under a scientific study conducted by Association for the Development of Motorcycling, the Polytechnic University of Bucharest and a noise emission specialist from Netherlands In the study somebody actually tried to measure this. You need a stronger rebuttal than "this is total garbage lol". You can make your own scientific study if you believe this results are for some reason incorrect, or…
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Most police bikes I see in the US are Harleys, I don't think they're buying anything out of practicality. If they were, you'd see a lot more BMW police motorcycles.
Michigan State Police somewhat controversially switched to BMW motorcycles in 2012, and actually disbanded the motorcycle unit for awhile because of safety issues. Apparently it's returning this year, still using the BMWs. https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2024/02/15/m...
Lower centre of gravity, some "extra" leg protection in sideswipes | converging hits on roundabouts (from the pots and pot crash bar protectors), and zero chance of chain wear with better direct power pickup | engine braking from the shaft.
These are all grounds for some heated debate wherever two wheels gather, but I'll swear by them.
Anecdotally, anyone who rides will you tell you this. It doesn’t matter how high your high viz vest is, or how loudly you rev your bike, someone will blindly cut you off and not realise you’re there until it’s way too late. I’m glad to see the data to back that up. Maybe now my fellow riders can agree that their motorbikes are a bit too damn loud, and tone it down.
Agree with you about loud pipes, but I am not sure why you had to throw high-vis clothing in there, unless the point is simply not to rely on any one advantage and to assume every driver is going to try to kill you. I do and heartily encourage every other rider to do as well. There is data to argue in favor of high vis clothing, and honestly given that the only downside to it is a perception of personal style I don't…
High viz vests CAN be beneficial. Don’t rely on them.
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By car: 30 mins. Public transport: 1 hour 30 mins. I'm not wasting 2 extra hours each day.
It's not like society without cars would be the exact same just without cars. People would live closer to where they need to be. It would be more public transport. More 15-minute cities etc. It's a bit dishonest to argue for continued car dominance just because it's already status quo.
And work the first 25 days out of each month month to pay for it, LOL.