Hard to tell if I'm biased or if this new format is as boring as it seems. Will have to try again tomorrow. Got about 10 minutes in tonight.
John Gruber takes 'The Talk Show' to Mule Radio
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Re: John Gruber takes 'The Talk Show' to Mule Radio
#62Shame on you John Gruber. Seriously though, it's John's show and he's free to take it to another network. I just _really_ hope that this transition was done in a respectful manner and that there isn't bad blood between 5by5 and Mule. A little background: Let's Make Mistakes, Mule Radio's main show, got started with 5by5's help. Let's Make Mistakes was a 5by5 network show for it's first year of existence. It garnered…
You'd think Gruber would have thanked 5by5 in his announcement if it had been a friendly parting of ways. The fact that he didn't is itself a dick move.
Re: John Gruber takes 'The Talk Show' to Mule Radio
#63So, what happened to the 5by5 edition?
Of course they DO NOT owe us an explanation about what happened, but it will be nice to hear something, just because we care about the show.
Re: John Gruber takes 'The Talk Show' to Mule Radio
#64This is a shame, because I think that Dan Benjamin is a funny guy and good host. It took me a while to realize it. I initially came to 5by5 for Siracusa, Dediu, Gruber and Arment (in that order) but the longer I listen the more I appreciate Dan.
Just last week I was loving how Dan will say something outrageous, framed as a casual, factual statement about the co-host, to elicit a reaction. ("You just sit around in your underwear while you're doing this podcast." - not an actual quote, I'm just characterizing). Of everybody else, Gruber responded with the least appreciation of Dan's humor.
Oh well, maybe the new chemistry will be good too.
Re: John Gruber takes 'The Talk Show' to Mule Radio
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
It would be interesting to know who paid how much of the app development. I hope Dan Benjamin did not get screwed by Gruber, the Mule Radio Network AND Black Pixel …
No need to speculate in that direction. These are big companies and smart people—I'm sure they came to an agreement. I just found the whole thing odd.
Big companies? What big companies? Everybody involved works for himself.
Re: John Gruber takes 'The Talk Show' to Mule Radio
#66So Mule now has The Talk Show and its new iOS app is really a reskinned 5by5 app that never was released (check inside the app bundle and you'll see the class prefix is FBF and the 5by5 logo is even in there—presumably unused). Nerd drama. edit: here's a screengrab of the Mule Radio app bundle if you're curious: http://cl.ly/1E240C0C272c2R3L2N19
Hi there, I'm Dan, CEO of Black Pixel. I'd like to clear the air on this issue. The application and the source code in question belongs to Black Pixel. We designed and developed the application in-house, at our own expense, and were going to license the binary for free, non-exclusive use on the 5by5 network, but that deal didn't work out. Quite some time later, we got to know the folks at Mule Radio, and felt like th…
Thanks Daniel. The app is great, as we expect from you guys.
Re: John Gruber takes 'The Talk Show' to Mule Radio
#67According to @muleradio's twitter stream, Gruber approached them. No poaching. Sounds like it was John's idea entirely.
Re: John Gruber takes 'The Talk Show' to Mule Radio
#68I'm pretty disappointed with this move. I was getting a little tired of the Talk Show on 5By5 but it was still enjoyable because Dan brought humor and structure to the show. I remember when Let's Make Mistakes split off and formed a new podcast network it felt odd to me at the time, like they used 5By5 to get some initial audience and then took them for themselves. For some reason it fit with the impression I get tha…
This. Gruber's flippant attitude has been bringing the Talk Show down for the past few months. Dan is what holds it together. These days, Hypercritical is by far the best podcast I listen to. It's not worth listening to without Dan Benjamin.
I'd be really really sad if hypercritical gets cancelled. I hope John Siracusa never leaves 5by5 - Dan Benjamin doesn't contribute that much to the show, but is still a great host.
Hypercritical is excellent.
Re: John Gruber takes 'The Talk Show' to Mule Radio
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hahah yeah. I thought it was just Gruber's personality. There were probably problems when Gruber slammed Readabliity as a scam while one of their investors is Jeffery Zeldman, another 5by5 host. He talked bad about it for a few episodes
I remember that episode and Dan seemed uncomfortable when John kept going and going about the topic. I don't know Dan personally, but I honestly think that he didn't like the fact that John called the "Readability guys" scumbags several times. Or that he wouldn't like anyone saying that kind of stuff on his shows. I understand him.
I gotta say though, kudos to Dan for exercising superior patience throughout
Re: John Gruber takes 'The Talk Show' to Mule Radio
#70According to @muleradio's twitter stream, Gruber approached them. No poaching. Sounds like it was John's idea entirely.
here's the exact tweet: https://twitter.com/#!/MuleRadio/statuses/203567508660297728