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Post by mihaic »

vkou wrote: post #94
spxneo wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GP is talking about cost-prohibitiveness of legal counsel a large company can absolutely drain your small/medium business with frivolous lawsuits. the point is that Western judicial system largely caters to capital not justice.

> the point is that Western judicial system largely caters to capital not justice. The problem is that there is no way to make it 'fair'. All the proposed reforms are also incredibly unfair, just in a slightly different way from what we have.

"Fair" is always impossible, but the goal is "fairer", which really is possible if we accept that lawyers and big corps have to have it slightly worse so everyone else has it significantly better.

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Post by gnopgnip »

celestialcheese wrote: post #74

This is so common, and has been for a number of years. As an owner of a website with a lot of content published over the years, a copyright claim pops up with "settlement" offers between $200-$1k to make it go away. 50% of the time it's an outright scam like this. 45% it's legit, we pay the settlement, and a writer gets a reminder about citing images and copyright. 5% is the worst, where a photographer will have a op…

Running an image on a website with ads doesn't necessarily make it commercial use.

A good way to look at it is like a newspaper. Using an image related to the content of an article is editorial, the primary purpose is to educate, entertain or inform. This is true even if for a newspaper that charges money. But using an image in an ad, in a way that endorses a product or creates a relationship or advertises a product is commercial use.

Re: Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to generate fake SEO gains

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Post by teddyh »

HlessClaudesman wrote: post #109

Soon it will be fake AI law firms sending DMCA threats to fake AI posters to take fake AI content down before tgf fake AI end users see it. Then we can just pull the plug and go back to doing human stuff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dead_Internet_the...>

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Post by sajforbes »

dudus wrote: post #6

I just signed up for this genAI summit but the lack of social buzz and the profile of the organizers give me a strange feeling. https://genaisummit.ai/#/ I'm afraid this is might be a fake conference created by AI. Am I crazy? I paid $500 for tickets. I almost signed up for the booth. I'll have to start emailing speakers for confirmation because it's not passing the smell test.

I'm a bit confused about your reasons for signing up, but it looks real to me. It could be with all the buzz around AI it really did see a large surge in interest. I'd be interested to hear from the founders and how they managed to grow so quickly.

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Post by moogly »

motoxpro wrote: post #11
samename wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instagram and Twitter links in footer don’t work… I’d do a chargeback with your credit card

Same. This is the twitter link https://twitter.com/GPTDAOGLOBAL 30,000 attendees for a conference is MASSIVE. Like a GDC or SEMA or something. One of the biggest in the world. Unless it's happened before, then I have a hard time believing they just spun this up out of nowhere. Edit: Would also have more sponsors. 2k to sponsor that/get a booth is WAAAAAY to cheap. Edit2: Also one of the sessions is. "... text2video,…

GPTDAO eh? Only missing NFT and FSD.

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Post by fragmede »

dudus wrote: post #6

I just signed up for this genAI summit but the lack of social buzz and the profile of the organizers give me a strange feeling. https://genaisummit.ai/#/ I'm afraid this is might be a fake conference created by AI. Am I crazy? I paid $500 for tickets. I almost signed up for the booth. I'll have to start emailing speakers for confirmation because it's not passing the smell test.

It's listed on the Palace of Fine Arts page, so GPTDAO has booked the space for the event. Last year's event was at SCC, and had 1,500 people, so they're expecting 3,000, not 30,000. I'd email them to tell them about their typo, but it's real.

https://www.palaceoffinearts.org/event/genai-summit

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Post by Mountain_Skies »

ahartmetz wrote: post #102
spxneo wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GP is talking about cost-prohibitiveness of legal counsel a large company can absolutely drain your small/medium business with frivolous lawsuits. the point is that Western judicial system largely caters to capital not justice.

It's mostly just the US judicial system. The US has about 3x the amount of lawyers per capita compared to other Western nations. The glorification of lawyers in US media is sometimes a bit sickening as a non-US citizen.

It's a weird quirk that having so many lawyers hasn't driven down the cost of their services but seems to have instead driven up demand.

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Post by musiciangames »

joecool1029 wrote: post #84
tmpz22 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> One of these bogus DMCA claims would be easily and cheaply dismissed by any competent lawyer. If you're a new small business owner how do you vet lawyers for competency? If you accidentally engage a less then competent lawyer who screws up, how does that impact the individual and company?

I've received takedown claims and requests to settle before from some trolls (once by Getty but I didn't handle that one directly). Usually it was old contributed blog posts with an improperly cited image or site theme components we purchased that contained stuff that wasn't properly licensed. We'd take it down and then onto the next step... I made friends with a few local lawyers, explained the situation and asked t…

> telling them in proper legal language to 'fuck off'

I refer m'learned friend to the precedent of Arkell v Pressdram

https://news.lettersofnote.com/p/arkell-v-pressdram

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Post by mapt »

michaelt wrote: post #104
ToucanLoucan wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've always been a fan of the concept of simply billing the losing litigants the legal expenses of both sides when the case was obviously frivolous. Seems like it would shut this shit right down.

Sounds like a good way to send legal bills into the stratosphere. I get to choose the best and most expensive lawyers and tell them to bill however many hours they like, because that asshole I'm suing is going to have to pay for it? Or I want to keep costs down, but the other guy has hired a team of three $500-an-hour lawyers to bury me in paperwork? And the only way I can avoid losing and having to pay is to respond…

If Disney were designing the system, sure. If people who were interested in improving the system has their hands on it, there are a bunch of avenues available. You could choose to regulate eg a stipulated legal fee, you could choose to set a high bar for 'frivolous', you could choose to moderate the fees by taking into consideration relative or absolute income, or by compensating 'Lesser of two parties legal fee amounts'.

It certainly seems appropriate that something like copyright litigation, which has statutory "civil" penalties in excess of the GDP of a medium-sized country, demands the judiciary branch extend some due process (including Gideon) to the unincorporated defendant.

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Post by clbrmbr »

tmpz22 wrote: post #36
antonvs wrote: post #13

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> completely inaccessible and non-existent to individuals or small companies. Even to medium companies. Only mega corps and law firms can afford to use the legal system. For individuals you have a point, but for small and medium companies this seems like an exaggeration. I've worked for several startups. The smallest was one that I co-founded with no outside funding - we maxed out at five employees, three of whom wer…

> One of these bogus DMCA claims would be easily and cheaply dismissed by any competent lawyer. If you're a new small business owner how do you vet lawyers for competency? If you accidentally engage a less then competent lawyer who screws up, how does that impact the individual and company?

The better you know your business and the law, the better you can judge the lawyers.

Theoretically it is every individual’s responsibility to know and comply with the law.

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