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Just a periodic reminder that 'Beyond the Pale' is a pro-colonialist phrase that many believe was was part of Britain's Centuries-long campaign to eliminate Irish culture. https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2012/12/beyond-the-pale.h...
It's kind of fascinating to see companies I've interviewed at, where I did well enough in my honest opinion to get something of an offer in yesterday's market where they didn't even went for a better candidate but simply reposted the job the same week. What is the idea? They just have it up to find that one 0.1% developer that happens to walk through the door? I can't imagine companies simply want to wait to roll out…
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20240315-ghost-jobs-dig...
I think that often it actually is about the 0.1%, it's the simplest explanation (but the ghost jobs article gives a few other explanations that are also good). Software development does not have a minimum headcount, everything you can build with four you might also be able to build with three, it's not like you need a well defined number of chairs to be occupied.
And it's actually worse than a naive look at the numbers suggests. Some of those forever openings aren't just listed by the would-be hiring company, but also by a happy flock of companies from that cottage industry of recruiting middle men, some disguised a little through different wording, others not disguised at all. Five companies looking for skill xy, and they are all the for same position that is only ever filled if the 0.1% happens to pass by.
A variant: government of canada/province jobs that re-post your job every season; requiring you to fully re-apply and re-interview over and over with your boss while they endlessly try to replace you, no matter how well you did. Until you get promoted or they find somebody they like better and you have to move 500+ km to get a different position I honestly think amazons stack ranking is less humiliating and skeezy
We'll eventually get to the point where anyone willing to jump through these stupid hoops is primarily motivated by greed.
Someone jumping through lots of hoops to get a job is greedy? Why would that make sense?
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Someone jumping through lots of hoops to get a job is greedy? Why would that make sense?
I guess GP was only thinking of people that do have a job looking for greener grass. For that subset I'm inclined to agree, despite vigorously agreeing with the counter opinions in the general case.
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I guess GP was only thinking of people that do have a job looking for greener grass. For that subset I'm inclined to agree, despite vigorously agreeing with the counter opinions in the general case.
Why would looking for a better job be greedy?
Require a very large number of hoops to be jumped through and every single hire will be of the kind who would have zero qualms to sell your company internals to the highest bidder if given the chance.
It's kind of fascinating to see companies I've interviewed at, where I did well enough in my honest opinion to get something of an offer in yesterday's market where they didn't even went for a better candidate but simply reposted the job the same week. What is the idea? They just have it up to find that one 0.1% developer that happens to walk through the door? I can't imagine companies simply want to wait to roll out…
Having been on the other side, hiring is really hard, and it's usually worse to have a bad developer in place than it is to have no developer. So the smart thing to do in most situations is err on the side of not hiring in marginal cases. > I did well enough in my honest opinion At a previous employer, I helped design the developer hiring process. The first step in the process was to ask candidates to pass a "do you…
At one company they gave me a "PR from a junior member" to review. I thought it was great. You were challenged to both find issues but also how to communicate them in a constructive way.
I don't know how efficient it is, but from my point of view it is the most stupid one that I have encoutented:
Imagine that they tell you to take "weeks" to train specifically for their 5 leetcode interviews process. And still, at this point, it is just to "determine your level". Will it be done then? no, you will still need to do more interviews with a few different teams to see which one can be a mutual fit between you and them.
And I guess that you will still have management/HR interviews to complete that.
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Why would looking for a better job be greedy?
The not so greedy might certainly be looking, but their willingness to jump through hoops would have a limit somewhere. Require a very large number of hoops to be jumped through and every single hire will be of the kind who would have zero qualms to sell your company internals to the highest bidder if given the chance.
Require a very large number of hoops to be jumped through and every single hire will be of the kind who would have zero qualms to sell your company internals to the highest bidder if given the chance.
What are you even talking about. What are you basing this on?
When I first moved back to Alabama, I took a job running 6 different 5 axis CNC machines for a Korean company. They had a policy that forced every new hire to go through a temp hire process and work for at least 3 months before being hired on with the company and receiving benefits and decent pay. There was no way I was going to allow myself to do the same work for less pay and no benefits for 3 entire months or more…