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The return of never-ending job interviews: 'It can go beyond the pale'

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Re: The return of never-ending job interviews: 'It can go beyond the pale'

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post #38

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Not every company is urgently looking to fill a role. It might be more acceptable for them to wait for a candidate who is a better fit, than to hire someone they're not thrilled about, and increase the costly risk of it not working out.

Managers keeping their budget alive.

That may be true in ZIRP era. Now a days, there's no budget for empire building. The bigger your team the more that you are accountable for delivering and the higher the expectations.

Re: The return of never-ending job interviews: 'It can go beyond the pale'

#83

It's pretty annoying how the article is quite both-sides-ism about the whole thing. Four months to receive an offer? Come on. You get the vast majority of the signal for a candidate in the interview process itself. All of the backoffice deliberations don't require months of meetings. It's just more okay that it gets dragged out because the market is lousy. Call it what it is: indecision and inefficiency.

This is similar to NYC dating scene. People are not willing to commit in case something better comes along. If you can drag your decision for 4 months, another better candidate may come through the door.

Re: The return of never-ending job interviews: 'It can go beyond the pale'

#84
I recently had a really good interview experience. 2-3 hour project. Then, after they reviewed it, another hour and a half meeting the team (no live coding, just talking about experience/fit). These takehome projects used to annoy me, but after this experience, I think I’d be fine with them being the standard as long as companies give feedback. Much better than 4 cycles of interviews.

I’m also pretty certain they learned more about me through that than through leetcode-style problems that are in ChatGPT’s training set.

Re: The return of never-ending job interviews: 'It can go beyond the pale'

#85
post #58

A variant: government of canada/province jobs that re-post your job every season; requiring you to fully re-apply and re-interview over and over with your boss while they endlessly try to replace you, no matter how well you did. Until you get promoted or they find somebody they like better and you have to move 500+ km to get a different position I honestly think amazons stack ranking is less humiliating and skeezy

Stack ranking is the first HR thing that agile development practices warn against. It discourages teamwork.

I’m sure agile development also discourages reposting a job and making the employee re apply.

Re: The return of never-ending job interviews: 'It can go beyond the pale'

#86

It's pretty annoying how the article is quite both-sides-ism about the whole thing. Four months to receive an offer? Come on. You get the vast majority of the signal for a candidate in the interview process itself. All of the backoffice deliberations don't require months of meetings. It's just more okay that it gets dragged out because the market is lousy. Call it what it is: indecision and inefficiency.

The number of times I've applied to startups and and SMBs and accepted an offer, to have some Fortune X00 company follow up 3-6 months later and make an offer is eye-rolling. The best candidates aren't the one's who are sitting on the market for 6 months, and if the cycle time to make the offer is that long then they are filtering for mediocrity.

Re: The return of never-ending job interviews: 'It can go beyond the pale'

#87
post #62

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Move on friend, you are wasting a least a little bit of your creative energy.

Maybe he's on the extreme side, but it's definitely better than not doing anything, like the rest of us.

Beats collecting stamps or getting way into lawn care or something.

This is basically public service work.

Re: The return of never-ending job interviews: 'It can go beyond the pale'

#88
post #9

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That's what I thought too--is the poster being sarcastic?

I guess I did need that /s. I thought I was being sufficiently over the top but I guess I wasn't. I hate multiple interviews. The best interviews I've had were a single 45 minute interview.

No, you were definitely sufficiently over the top. It's just hard to tell if you're poking fun at current hiring practices, or at current dating practices. Or maybe at both.

Re: The return of never-ending job interviews: 'It can go beyond the pale'

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post #72
post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dude it was your source. Take the L and don't cite sources you haven't read going forward.

Please don't make personal attacks like that on this forum, it's against the rules. So is claiming someone didn't read a source when you disagree with their interpretation. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I'm saying you didn't read the source because you cited a source and it clearly contradicted what you said.

I don't know why you're still typing, you're not convincing anybody, you're not getting any karma, and nobody is gonna respect you more for refusing to acknowledge how blatantly wrong you are. The best you can do here is admit (to yourself) you screwed up and that you have a lot of trouble admitting when you're wrong, and then working on that character flaw -- your life will go a lot smoother.

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