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The return of never-ending job interviews: 'It can go beyond the pale'

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Re: The return of never-ending job interviews: 'It can go beyond the pale'

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Post by CoastalCoder »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #21
yokoprime wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only when unemployed

My petty revenge against amazon mistreating my partner when they worked there is to aggressively pursue onsite interviews with them. I refuse to do initial phone screens - a tactic which often works to go directly to onsite since amazon is clueless and desperate. I don't study for their stupid whiteboards and I don't study their stupid leadership principals. I on purpose refuse to use them during behavioral interview…

I'm filled with a combination of respect and pity for you.

But those emotions are dwarfed by Amazon-directed Schadenfreude. Well done, sir/madame.

Re: The return of never-ending job interviews: 'It can go beyond the pale'

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Post by TRDRVR »

DiggyJohnson wrote: post #47
TRDRVR wrote: post #20

Just a periodic reminder that 'Beyond the Pale' is a pro-colonialist phrase that many believe was was part of Britain's Centuries-long campaign to eliminate Irish culture. https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2012/12/beyond-the-pale.h...

And who cares if it was? I don't see a movement of the Irish to eradicate this phrase.

Isn't this a forum for the intellectually curious?

I made no call to action.

I guess I should have known any time the information is something certain people would consider 'woke' it elicits a strong emotional reaction beyond the information itself.

My bad.

Re: The return of never-ending job interviews: 'It can go beyond the pale'

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Post by hinkley »

cjf101 wrote: post #34
mattgreenrocks wrote: post #13

It's pretty annoying how the article is quite both-sides-ism about the whole thing. Four months to receive an offer? Come on. You get the vast majority of the signal for a candidate in the interview process itself. All of the backoffice deliberations don't require months of meetings. It's just more okay that it gets dragged out because the market is lousy. Call it what it is: indecision and inefficiency.

Four months for an offer sounds a lot more like a terrible salary negotiation tactic. The longer a candidate will wait for an offer, the less money they might be willing to accept. It's definitely not going to get you the best candidate, but it might get you the cheapest one.

In four months you’d owe me another 1% just for inflation. But the last time I interviewed I got a callback after less than two months and they found I’d already had a new job for a week and a half.

(In retrospect I should have followed up with them, as the new place was throwing red flags).

Re: The return of never-ending job interviews: 'It can go beyond the pale'

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Post by Chris2048 »

gentleman11 wrote: post #22

A variant: government of canada/province jobs that re-post your job every season; requiring you to fully re-apply and re-interview over and over with your boss while they endlessly try to replace you, no matter how well you did. Until you get promoted or they find somebody they like better and you have to move 500+ km to get a different position I honestly think amazons stack ranking is less humiliating and skeezy

Maybe, but hopefully you'd have a massive advantage at your own job. There is the perception of public jobs as being a lock in without competition - maybe this is meant to fix that?

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Post by wrs »

TRDRVR wrote: post #49
wrs wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also from the article: a “pale” is a fence. “Beyond the pale” used to require a suffix (e.g., “beyond the pale of reason”) but eventually by itself started to be short for “beyond the pale of acceptable behavior”.

And what were those fences specifically used for pray tell.

Metaphorical boundaries of things like reason and acceptable behavior. “Beyond the pale” means outside the fence. Being “beyond the Pale of Settlement” (that is, outside the ghetto) would be a good thing.

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Post by jdlyga »

gentleman11 wrote: post #22

A variant: government of canada/province jobs that re-post your job every season; requiring you to fully re-apply and re-interview over and over with your boss while they endlessly try to replace you, no matter how well you did. Until you get promoted or they find somebody they like better and you have to move 500+ km to get a different position I honestly think amazons stack ranking is less humiliating and skeezy

Stack ranking is the first HR thing that agile development practices warn against. It discourages teamwork.

Re: The return of never-ending job interviews: 'It can go beyond the pale'

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Post by cableshaft »

hinkley wrote: post #46
chrstphrknwtn wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it takes thirteen interviews for someone, or a group of people, to know if I'm worth hiring, then I would assume they have no idea what they're doing. That seems like a waste of everybody's time.

I kept waiting for the sarcasm tag that never came.

/s
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