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'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's see how long it takes this time! I'd give it 50% odds of lasting 12 minutes. Edit: Flagged after less than 9 minutes, I overestimated!

and then un-flagged right after?

I vouched for it.

Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

#152

Upsetting how quickly the other thread was flagged and downranked.

I don't understand why it was flagged, obviously it is a sensitive topic but AI being used to kill people is very clearly a HN-worthy topic

It was flagged because someone doesn't want people seeing this.

It's also currently dropping rank on the front page, despite being heavily upvoted.

Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

#155

Upsetting how quickly the other thread was flagged and downranked.

I don't understand why it was flagged, obviously it is a sensitive topic but AI being used to kill people is very clearly a HN-worthy topic

Yeah, you'd hope that a higher level conversation about the use of technology in war, pros/cons, etc could supersede personal political beliefs about this particular conflict. We don't need people's moral judgements on who is right or wrong in this particular case but it would be neat to hear people's thoughts on utilizing information technology as a weapon of war.

Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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Years ago, scholars (such as Didier Bigo) have already raised concerns about the targeting of individuals merely based on (indirect) association with a "terrorist" or "criminal". Originally used in the context of surveillance (see Snowden revelations), such systems would target anyone who would be e.g. less than 3-steps away from an identified individual, thereby removing any sense of due process or targeted surveill…

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Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

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> “You don’t want to waste expensive bombs on unimportant people — it’s very expensive for the country and there’s a shortage [of those bombs]”

At that point I had to scroll back up to check whether this was just a really twisted April's Fools joke.

Re: 'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing in Gaza

#159

Upsetting how quickly the other thread was flagged and downranked.

As someone who sees both sides of this, and as someone who didn't understand this for some time, it's important to understand that one reason a story is likely to get flagged is because users think it's highly unlikely to lead to productive discussion. It doesn't mean it's a bad story, or even unworthy of discussion, but many types of stories seem to, pretty predictably, lead to a cesspool of comments where it's clear most folks have no desire to listen to opposing points of view.

FWIW, I found this to be a really interesting story that I didn't previously know about, so I hope it stays up, and this is a story I'd be willing to vouch for.

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