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The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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Re: The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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Post by mrWiz »

ssl-3 wrote: post #44
LarsDu88 wrote: post #3

I remember being super hyped for the successor of the floppy disk back as a kid in the 90s... Iomega Zip Drives. And then getting super hyped for the successor to the CD... the BluRay, and wondering what sort of holographic multi terabyte wizardry would be the nextgen of optical disks. Now we are in 2024 and what actually happened is no one owns their movie or music libraries anymore... they are all streamed from som…

I used to miss being able to hand a floppy disk to someone to give them some data, but then I got used to using email instead (once disk quotas, transfer rates, and attachment sizes caught up). The disks were cheap enough (eventually) to not care much about. And for a while, I enjoyed handing people CD-Rs or DVD-Rs full of data, and the disks were also cheap enough (eventually) to not care much about. (And disk quota…

The way it generally works IME is that if I want someone's data I better have my own thumb drive to get it, and if somebody wants mine they better have their own.

Re: The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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Post by bigbillheck »

ssl-3 wrote: post #44
LarsDu88 wrote: post #3

I remember being super hyped for the successor of the floppy disk back as a kid in the 90s... Iomega Zip Drives. And then getting super hyped for the successor to the CD... the BluRay, and wondering what sort of holographic multi terabyte wizardry would be the nextgen of optical disks. Now we are in 2024 and what actually happened is no one owns their movie or music libraries anymore... they are all streamed from som…

I used to miss being able to hand a floppy disk to someone to give them some data, but then I got used to using email instead (once disk quotas, transfer rates, and attachment sizes caught up). The disks were cheap enough (eventually) to not care much about. And for a while, I enjoyed handing people CD-Rs or DVD-Rs full of data, and the disks were also cheap enough (eventually) to not care much about. (And disk quota…

> cheap enough to not care about

You can get a ten pack of 16gb drives for $25, which after inflation is in the ballpark of what I remember floppies costing 30 years ago.

Re: The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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Post by robjan »

hnlmorg wrote: post #83
hackernewds wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and most content creators get paid a pittance compared to what they did in the old world. fairly per the effort I'd say. previously content required a camera crew and helicopters. now a smartphone among the limitless content creators

That’s a grossly unfair comparison: 1. For starters you’re comparing TV production to YouTube content. The two aren’t even close to being equal in terms of budget. 2. Most popular content on YouTube still have at least professionals DSLRs and paid crew beyond just the influencers. Even if it’s just an editor or two. 3. I think the GP was talking about music rather then video content 4. Even with music, previously you…

In the past long tail musicians got nothing, now they get a handful of shrapnel from Spotify plays.

Re: The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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Post by yxwvut »

LarsDu88 wrote: post #3

I remember being super hyped for the successor of the floppy disk back as a kid in the 90s... Iomega Zip Drives. And then getting super hyped for the successor to the CD... the BluRay, and wondering what sort of holographic multi terabyte wizardry would be the nextgen of optical disks. Now we are in 2024 and what actually happened is no one owns their movie or music libraries anymore... they are all streamed from som…

I think it's worth distinguishing that 'most creators get paid a pittance' is only true on a per-view basis. The total outflows to creators is higher, but the total viewership is massively increased due to the leftward shift in where we live on the demand curve. There's no 'money for nothing' solution where everyone just accepts higher prices and continues consuming at the current rate.

Re: The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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Post by nradov »

mrWiz wrote: post #131
ssl-3 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to miss being able to hand a floppy disk to someone to give them some data, but then I got used to using email instead (once disk quotas, transfer rates, and attachment sizes caught up). The disks were cheap enough (eventually) to not care much about. And for a while, I enjoyed handing people CD-Rs or DVD-Rs full of data, and the disks were also cheap enough (eventually) to not care much about. (And disk quota…

The way it generally works IME is that if I want someone's data I better have my own thumb drive to get it, and if somebody wants mine they better have their own.

You've got to be kidding. There's no way I'm going to plug someone else's thumb drive into my computer. Who knows what kind of malware it could be carrying, like having unprotected sex with a random stranger.

Re: The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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Post by ljf »

prmoustache wrote: post #94
LarsDu88 wrote: post #3

I remember being super hyped for the successor of the floppy disk back as a kid in the 90s... Iomega Zip Drives. And then getting super hyped for the successor to the CD... the BluRay, and wondering what sort of holographic multi terabyte wizardry would be the nextgen of optical disks. Now we are in 2024 and what actually happened is no one owns their movie or music libraries anymore... they are all streamed from som…

As teenagers used to record mixtapes of music we likes to people we liked/love. Nowadays people just tag other on social medias or send links in private messages. I wonder if some still take the time to curate / prepare special things the same way we did.

Not a teenager here - but I still make Spotify playlists for my friends, and I come across shared/curated playlists that people post all the time. Pre-spotify I used to make youtube playlists of music I loved - so pretty sure teenagers are doing the same now.

Re: The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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Post by AshamedCaptain »

francescovv wrote: post #72
Varriount wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh, I wonder what the problem was. I semi-regularly send files between my Windows laptop and my Android phone. I do recall never being able to get that functionality working properly with a Mac though.

That was between two Android phones, with receiving phone being "oppo" or some such, with stock firmware. Receiving phone would see incoming file request, ask user to accept, then error out with "unknown file", and no way to actually save it. I've sent files via bluetooth from lineageos to lineageos, no problem.

It also possible it just dropped it silently in the Downloads directory.

Otherwise ironical that all of this behaves like the 90s PalmOS which could not store a file unless a program would accept it.

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