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The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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Re: The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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Post by nvarsj »

francescovv wrote: post #65
ssl-3 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to miss being able to hand a floppy disk to someone to give them some data, but then I got used to using email instead (once disk quotas, transfer rates, and attachment sizes caught up). The disks were cheap enough (eventually) to not care much about. And for a while, I enjoyed handing people CD-Rs or DVD-Rs full of data, and the disks were also cheap enough (eventually) to not care much about. (And disk quota…

> What (...) happened to easily sending data, over the Internet And for mobile phones - without internet is similar, unnecessarily hard. The other day I was hiking with friends, and wanted to share a .gpx file with the route, at some spot with no cell coverage. I thought: "I 'member, bluetooth can send files". Well, we spent good 15 minutes trying and miserably failed, that's no longer possible in the name of "securi…

Pretty easy with iPhone+AirDrop. Just bring your iPhones together - it asks if you want to airdrop something, select file, done.

Re: The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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Post by francescovv »

Varriount wrote: post #68
francescovv wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What (...) happened to easily sending data, over the Internet And for mobile phones - without internet is similar, unnecessarily hard. The other day I was hiking with friends, and wanted to share a .gpx file with the route, at some spot with no cell coverage. I thought: "I 'member, bluetooth can send files". Well, we spent good 15 minutes trying and miserably failed, that's no longer possible in the name of "securi…

Huh, I wonder what the problem was. I semi-regularly send files between my Windows laptop and my Android phone. I do recall never being able to get that functionality working properly with a Mac though.

That was between two Android phones, with receiving phone being "oppo" or some such, with stock firmware. Receiving phone would see incoming file request, ask user to accept, then error out with "unknown file", and no way to actually save it. I've sent files via bluetooth from lineageos to lineageos, no problem.

Re: The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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Post by ReptileMan »

LarsDu88 wrote: post #3

I remember being super hyped for the successor of the floppy disk back as a kid in the 90s... Iomega Zip Drives. And then getting super hyped for the successor to the CD... the BluRay, and wondering what sort of holographic multi terabyte wizardry would be the nextgen of optical disks. Now we are in 2024 and what actually happened is no one owns their movie or music libraries anymore... they are all streamed from som…

>Now we are in 2024 and what actually happened is no one owns their movie or music libraries anymore... they are all streamed from some remote CDN somewhere, and most content creators get paid a pittance compared to what they did in the old world.

I torrent and spinning rust is cheap. So I do have media collection.

Re: The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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Post by ballooney »

DeathArrow wrote: post #57
jwells89 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the past 15 years, what’s kept me from keeping a collection of CDs and blurays is the space they take up. It’s nothing compared to say vinyl records or VHS tapes, but it’s still substantial if you have more than just a handful and makes moving that much more of a pain. Now that I own a house I have a few favorite CDs that get frequent listening, but still no blurays, mainly because there’s not much I rewatch often…

>It’d be cool if a physical medium that’s sized similarly to regular SD cards caught on. What's wrong with SD cards?

Agreed! For anyone else who, like me, didnt really pay attention to SD cards for a few years, it’s quite amazing how cheap they are for their capacity now. 256GB from reputable people like sandisk for low tens of dollars. Used one as a good travel backup drive on a recent work trip.

Re: The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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Post by Varriount »

francescovv wrote: post #72
Varriount wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh, I wonder what the problem was. I semi-regularly send files between my Windows laptop and my Android phone. I do recall never being able to get that functionality working properly with a Mac though.

That was between two Android phones, with receiving phone being "oppo" or some such, with stock firmware. Receiving phone would see incoming file request, ask user to accept, then error out with "unknown file", and no way to actually save it. I've sent files via bluetooth from lineageos to lineageos, no problem.

I could totally see it being something stupid in how Android manages file associations or something. The default file managers tend to be fairly crippled and only actually show a subset of files present.

Re: The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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Post by _carbyau_ »

reporterexchang wrote: post #21

Search by floppy disk over time. Google trends. About as expected... https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?hl=en-US&tz=420&dat...

What is the spike in November 2020 about?

Is there a way to "see what they saw"? Maybe the results of then could tell me why people cared about a 20 year old media format.

Re: The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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Post by Rinzler89 »

ssl-3 wrote: post #44
LarsDu88 wrote: post #3

I remember being super hyped for the successor of the floppy disk back as a kid in the 90s... Iomega Zip Drives. And then getting super hyped for the successor to the CD... the BluRay, and wondering what sort of holographic multi terabyte wizardry would be the nextgen of optical disks. Now we are in 2024 and what actually happened is no one owns their movie or music libraries anymore... they are all streamed from som…

I used to miss being able to hand a floppy disk to someone to give them some data, but then I got used to using email instead (once disk quotas, transfer rates, and attachment sizes caught up). The disks were cheap enough (eventually) to not care much about. And for a while, I enjoyed handing people CD-Rs or DVD-Rs full of data, and the disks were also cheap enough (eventually) to not care much about. (And disk quota…

>But BD-R never really caught on for a lot of reasons: So even if it is cheap-enough, it isn't universal-enough.

I beg to differ. In the 2000s and part of 2010s everyone had optical media readers at home or in the office. In my EU country, radiology offices still use DVDs to share or hand you over your X-ray/CT/MRI images that you can then share with your dentist/GP/specialist for diagnosis.

Yeah, a national cloud system for radiology image storing and sharing part of the national healthcare system the would be much better, but computers and on-line services are still a new confusing thing to the government, so this is what we got now. So every medical practice still has functioning optical readers.

Re: The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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Post by yaomtc »

Rinzler89 wrote: post #77
ssl-3 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to miss being able to hand a floppy disk to someone to give them some data, but then I got used to using email instead (once disk quotas, transfer rates, and attachment sizes caught up). The disks were cheap enough (eventually) to not care much about. And for a while, I enjoyed handing people CD-Rs or DVD-Rs full of data, and the disks were also cheap enough (eventually) to not care much about. (And disk quota…

>But BD-R never really caught on for a lot of reasons: So even if it is cheap-enough, it isn't universal-enough. I beg to differ. In the 2000s and part of 2010s everyone had optical media readers at home or in the office. In my EU country, radiology offices still use DVDs to share or hand you over your X-ray/CT/MRI images that you can then share with your dentist/GP/specialist for diagnosis. Yeah, a national cloud sy…

They said BD-R. Blu-ray. Not many computers have Blu-ray drives compared to DVD.

Re: The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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Post by hnlmorg »

Rinzler89 wrote: post #77
ssl-3 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to miss being able to hand a floppy disk to someone to give them some data, but then I got used to using email instead (once disk quotas, transfer rates, and attachment sizes caught up). The disks were cheap enough (eventually) to not care much about. And for a while, I enjoyed handing people CD-Rs or DVD-Rs full of data, and the disks were also cheap enough (eventually) to not care much about. (And disk quota…

>But BD-R never really caught on for a lot of reasons: So even if it is cheap-enough, it isn't universal-enough. I beg to differ. In the 2000s and part of 2010s everyone had optical media readers at home or in the office. In my EU country, radiology offices still use DVDs to share or hand you over your X-ray/CT/MRI images that you can then share with your dentist/GP/specialist for diagnosis. Yeah, a national cloud sy…

The GP was on about writable Blu-ray Discs specifically. Writable CDs and DVDs were common place.

Re: The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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Post by Rinzler89 »

yaomtc wrote: post #78
Rinzler89 wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>But BD-R never really caught on for a lot of reasons: So even if it is cheap-enough, it isn't universal-enough. I beg to differ. In the 2000s and part of 2010s everyone had optical media readers at home or in the office. In my EU country, radiology offices still use DVDs to share or hand you over your X-ray/CT/MRI images that you can then share with your dentist/GP/specialist for diagnosis. Yeah, a national cloud sy…

They said BD-R. Blu-ray. Not many computers have Blu-ray drives compared to DVD.

Oh right, my bad. Though around the 2010s IIRC many laptops even on the budget end were being sold with BD reader combo drives.
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