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The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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Re: The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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I remember being super hyped for the successor of the floppy disk back as a kid in the 90s... Iomega Zip Drives. And then getting super hyped for the successor to the CD... the BluRay, and wondering what sort of holographic multi terabyte wizardry would be the nextgen of optical disks. Now we are in 2024 and what actually happened is no one owns their movie or music libraries anymore... they are all streamed from som…

some of us hold onto the past. I still have a Zip disk and drive (and a bunch of old media, all the way back to a 8 inch floppy) and I have a fairly large collection of 4k blurays

I am listening to some of my minidiscs at this very moment

Re: The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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I remember being super hyped for the successor of the floppy disk back as a kid in the 90s... Iomega Zip Drives. And then getting super hyped for the successor to the CD... the BluRay, and wondering what sort of holographic multi terabyte wizardry would be the nextgen of optical disks. Now we are in 2024 and what actually happened is no one owns their movie or music libraries anymore... they are all streamed from som…

Imation had their own super-floppy drive that I liked better than Zip drives; it never caught on though. They could also do neat tricks like writing up to 32MB to a standard 3.5" floppy.

Really? On a regular disk? I thought the upper limit was ~2.7M

Re: The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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I remember being super hyped for the successor of the floppy disk back as a kid in the 90s... Iomega Zip Drives. And then getting super hyped for the successor to the CD... the BluRay, and wondering what sort of holographic multi terabyte wizardry would be the nextgen of optical disks. Now we are in 2024 and what actually happened is no one owns their movie or music libraries anymore... they are all streamed from som…

you can download any music you want on youtube as mp3s. store them on a usb drive and plug it on your car, or store it in your computer and store a huge music library... but why bother yourself doing that if you can stream directly on any platform...

Because when you have your own copy of something nobody is keeping track of what the date and time is when you watch/listen to that media along with how often you do it or what parts you view/hear more often or pause at most often, or where you are and what other things you are doing when you saw/heard it etc. You can enjoy your media entirely offline which is something you'll really want if you find yourself without internet access for some reason. In addition, you don't have to worry about that content suddenly going away without notice, or it being censored or modified at some later date. You also get the ability to play that media in your software of choice and can even re-encode the media to play on other devices using other formats. You can make your own edits. You can share your collection with others without forcing them to create an account and hand money/data to a third party. You can include things in your own collection that those third party streaming services might not approve of.

When you give up on owning things you give up a lot more than just the item you would have had sitting on a shelf or the file that would have taken up space on your hard drive. There are lots of freedoms and opportunities you gain that wouldn't be possible otherwise.

Re: The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

some of us hold onto the past. I still have a Zip disk and drive (and a bunch of old media, all the way back to a 8 inch floppy) and I have a fairly large collection of 4k blurays

I am listening to some of my minidiscs at this very moment

I have vinyls

Re: The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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Man seeing some of those disk manufacturers names brings me back to when I used to order bulk purchases of 5.25" floppies from a catalog and sell them at a profit out of my high school locker. And then of course, there was the trick of using a hole punch to add a second write-enable hole to the left side of the disk so you could flip it over and use the back for an extra 140K of storage.

>when I used to order bulk purchases of 5.25" floppies from a catalog

Imsai!

Re: The Rise and Fall of 3M's Floppy Disk (2023)

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just saying, the buggy sticky/fading/back-again header implementation makes this really hard to read. please make it sticky or even better just don't.

images don't load with JS disabled, but the text is clear and there's no annoying header to worry about.
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