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HP Disables Printer Functionality Until You Install the HP Smart App

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Re: HP Disables Printer Functionality Until You Install the HP Smart App

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Post by arp242 »

technion wrote: post #26
schappim wrote: post #9

A member of our warehouse team contacted me. Here's how the conversation unfolded at work: Warehouse Team Member: "Could you log into the App Store and download an app for the printer to work?" Me: "That doesn't sound right." I remotely accessed the warehouse computer, opened a random PDF document, and hit 'Print'. The printer queue looked normal to me. Me: "It seems to be printing just fine." Warehouse Team Member:…

A while back I was in a partner channel meeting for hp and it was all enthusiastic cheers for this specific decision.

What's even the benefit for HP? What do they gain by people installing this app?

Re: HP Disables Printer Functionality Until You Install the HP Smart App

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Post by richie_adler »

1letterunixname wrote: post #44

This is why I buy old enterprise LaserJet printers. Also, the toner cartridges are more generous and recycled* ones are relatively cheap. I currently have 4 spares which is probably enough for its entire lifecycle of me printing a return to page to flEaBay or as required by some antique government bureaucratic bullshit that demands the killing of trees. LJ4 (the plain base model) (2005-2012) -> 4000 (2012-2020) -> M4…

I worked with an old LJ 5siMX. It was a pain to set the static IP configuration but other than that, amazing. Printed a buttload of insurance policies for years, plus simple text reports improved with a few PCL commands. And a proper PS renderer, not a Win driver in sight. Bliss.

Re: HP Disables Printer Functionality Until You Install the HP Smart App

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Post by zb3 »

ndsipa_pomu wrote: post #28
nyanpasu64 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I looked up the model M110w and found: > This printer is intended to work only with cartridges that have a new or reused HP chip, and it uses dynamic security measures to block cartridges using a non-HP chip. Periodic firmware updates will maintain the effectiveness of these measures and block cartridges that previously worked. A reused HP chip enables the use of reused, remanufactured, and refilled cartridges. This…

> This is the future of printers... Not if people refuse to buy from companies that do this

I've recently successfully talked someone out of buying a HP printer precisely because of shady practices like this. I believe more people should do the same

Re: HP Disables Printer Functionality Until You Install the HP Smart App

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Post by TrueGeek »

arp242 wrote: post #51
technion wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A while back I was in a partner channel meeting for hp and it was all enthusiastic cheers for this specific decision.

What's even the benefit for HP? What do they gain by people installing this app?

My guess is that once the app is installed it's easier to convince the user to sign up for an ink subscription. And then once that's done it's easy for the user to forget they've done that. They won't even see the charge, it'll just be lost among the tons of other "Apple.com" charges that come across each month.

Re: HP Disables Printer Functionality Until You Install the HP Smart App

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Post by bhhaskin »

schappim wrote: post #9

A member of our warehouse team contacted me. Here's how the conversation unfolded at work: Warehouse Team Member: "Could you log into the App Store and download an app for the printer to work?" Me: "That doesn't sound right." I remotely accessed the warehouse computer, opened a random PDF document, and hit 'Print'. The printer queue looked normal to me. Me: "It seems to be printing just fine." Warehouse Team Member:…

And yet people keep buying hp printers

Re: HP Disables Printer Functionality Until You Install the HP Smart App

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Post by hulitu »

arp242 wrote: post #51
technion wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A while back I was in a partner channel meeting for hp and it was all enthusiastic cheers for this specific decision.

What's even the benefit for HP? What do they gain by people installing this app?

Selling usage data ?

Re: HP Disables Printer Functionality Until You Install the HP Smart App

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Post by 72deluxe »

I run a Pi that runs CUPS under Raspbian and exposes the wireless Samsung printer on the same network as a network shared printer. This works from my Android phone, my wife's Windows PC, my wife's iPad, my work MacBook and my Linux laptop. The Samsung printer itself is a dumb ML-2160 series that doesn't support AirPrint.

No need for these idiotic printers.

I think it was as simple as installing CUPS, going to http://localhost:631/admin and enabling "Share printers connected to this system".

Re: HP Disables Printer Functionality Until You Install the HP Smart App

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Post by ppetty »

So I think a lot of people say that they’d rather print photos at a drugstore (or some other online service), which totally makes sense. But if you completely ditch printers at home, which kind of makes sense; where do you feel safe printing contracts & medical docs? Kinkos & the library don’t feel like good alternatives … Is there some place that is good / safe to do this??

Also, what if HP is actually intentionally getting all of use to hate printing on paper altogether? Maybe this is the biggest corporate tree-hugger event in the history of mankind. Nah, no way … it’s definitely money grab.

Re: HP Disables Printer Functionality Until You Install the HP Smart App

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Post by sillywalk »

kioshix wrote: post #21
schappim wrote: post #9

A member of our warehouse team contacted me. Here's how the conversation unfolded at work: Warehouse Team Member: "Could you log into the App Store and download an app for the printer to work?" Me: "That doesn't sound right." I remotely accessed the warehouse computer, opened a random PDF document, and hit 'Print'. The printer queue looked normal to me. Me: "It seems to be printing just fine." Warehouse Team Member:…

I would use a baseball bat to fix it, that's so evil.

Damn it feels good to be a gangsta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9wsjroVlu8

Re: HP Disables Printer Functionality Until You Install the HP Smart App

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Post by M95D »

bhhaskin wrote: post #55
schappim wrote: post #9

A member of our warehouse team contacted me. Here's how the conversation unfolded at work: Warehouse Team Member: "Could you log into the App Store and download an app for the printer to work?" Me: "That doesn't sound right." I remotely accessed the warehouse computer, opened a random PDF document, and hit 'Print'. The printer queue looked normal to me. Me: "It seems to be printing just fine." Warehouse Team Member:…

And yet people keep buying hp printers

I wouldn't call that type of managers "people". They're monsters.
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