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Could it be that Musk's inflammatory language and behaviors are a turn off for potential buyers? They are a turn off for me. I like the vehicles but I'd never get one.
... only works when you're making the best car. There are a lot of very competitive EV alternatives now.
I could see this coming weeks ago: My local dealer was cold-calling existing owners to try to get them to buy the updated model 3, which isn't a very significant update at all. They had a bunch on the lot that weren't selling. We can also see the promotion of a free trial for self-driving as a response to this too: Hoping some people bite after trying it out. Whether that happens, or we just see more videos of failed…
Isn’t Teslas whole schtick that they are dealer-free? Where is this? Is it a franchise?
Maybe we're getting to saturation in early adopter market? Looking around, there are a lot of folks who could not easily live with a BEV, i.e. live in apartment buildings or don't have an easy way to install L2 charging at home.
At least that is how I rationalize potential EV ownership.
This may be related as well, in a smaller way: https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/would-...
I wanted a Tesla, but I couldn’t inage buying one with Musk as CEO.
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When Tesla gets tight for money they raise the Supercharger price to more than gas, it happened once around 2018 during a cash crunch.
I rarely use it (the vast majority of Tesla owners charge at home), but when I do, I appreciate the fact that it's there, even if the price is higher. It's still cheaper than gas. I actually think that's kind of the idea. One or two long road trips per year become possible. With most other EVs they're a dicey proposition still.
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> Mostly bad controls, UX, etc. stuff that the Tesla gets right. What? Tesla's controls are ass. They're infotainment responsiveness is great, but the turn signal steering wheel buttons, windshield wipers, drive mode select, etc... are all absolutely horrible. It's literally the reason we passed on the Model 3 & S when shopping for an EV. The extra 20-60 miles of range wasn't worth it to put up with that nonsense.
That's just for the cars with that yoke steering wheel, right? The controls for the more "normal" cars is pretty intuitive. Except for headlights. I don't know why it couldn't just have a switch for headlights.
https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_eu/GUID-A5F2B9D...
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You're not buying quality when you buy Tesla, you're buying fashion. if you want quality buy a Toyota/Lexus.
I'm a big fan of Toyota Prius Prime and RAV4 Prime. (High efficiency vehicles, Prius Prime is #1 most green car of ACEEE list, etc. etc.). But people buying Tesla aren't aligned to Toyota. But a better match to culture is likely Jeep Wrangler 4xe. Incredible offroading performance, reasonable towing capacity, large size / in-your-face advertising to some extent. And electrified, so that your daily commute is efficien…
I suppose they are out of fashion right now but honestly that is the form factor that I would be most interested in. I could use it for both home projects but also with the longer body it would have have a fairly decent range so wouldn't be bad for the family road trips. I don't like the idea of having to stop every 2 or 3 hours, 4 would be more ideal.
Could it be that Musk's inflammatory language and behaviors are a turn off for potential buyers? They are a turn off for me. I like the vehicles but I'd never get one.
The vast majority of the world doesn't exist in the online sphere. I think that they have saturated the initial EV buyers, mainstream is still afraid of EV and there's more anti-EV propaganda in the media than ever before.
Well I’m a Tesla employee and I started looking for a new job today. There’s a lot of smart people who see where this is going.
The smart people left years ago and started working at Lucid and elsewhere. All the people who had talent got sick of Musk's shit, saw the company stagnating, and left for functional, non-toxic workplaces.
Tesla has spent the last ~5 years resting on its laurels, aside from (eventually) producing a pavement-queen meme vehicle that breaks down on even the simplest off-roading tests and gets stuck on beaches. Oh, and slightly tweaking the Model 3's looks, I guess that's...something.
Your cars have completely stagnant styling, terrible reliability (matched with even worse parts availability!), the worst interiors in their class, the worst build quality, and they're no longer kings in anything - not efficiency, range, performance, or charging speed.
Your company was at the forefront of removing physical switches and moving to screen-based and capacitive-touch controls, both reviled by the public and coming under increasing scrutiny by regulators.
Your cars have the highest crash rate of any automaker.
Tesla's "autopilot" has been surpassed by several manufacturers whose systems don't randomly slam on the brakes (or, for that matter, into the backs of police cruisers.)
Here's a 2008 blog post about V2G: https://www.tesla.com/blog/smarter-charging ...and sixteen years later your cars still can't do it. Hyundais and Kias can...
Your cars are still stuck on 400V (sorry, "480") architecture while years ago other companies went to 800v. VW/Audi/Porsche, Hyundai/Kia, GM, and Lucid are all on 800v. And while "V4" stations have been deployed, they're all still 400v 'under the hood'. 800v CCS has been slow to roll out, but it's actually been
If you're all so smart, why are your cars on fire sale and still selling like dogshit?
"Disastrous" seems like a significant overstatement. To me this looks more like "unsurprising". Tesla has some additional business lines which might eventually prove quite valuable, but in the short to medium term it is mostly a car company. The whole car industry is dealing with the results of higher interest rates. It would be much more surprising if Tesla somehow turned out to be immune to that.