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Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results

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Re: Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results

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Could it be that Musk's inflammatory language and behaviors are a turn off for potential buyers? They are a turn off for me. I like the vehicles but I'd never get one.

For me it's this + going overboard on minimalism (speed only on center screen, turn signals now buttons, wiper controls on touch screen). It's a shame because there's a lot to like about the model 3.

Re: Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results

#113
post #73

Could it be that Musk's inflammatory language and behaviors are a turn off for potential buyers? They are a turn off for me. I like the vehicles but I'd never get one.

Yep. I am a current Tesla Model 3 owner, really like my car, but plan to switch to another brand after running this one into the ground. Elon's behavior is awful and dangerous given his fame/money, and luckily, unlike in 2017, there are now other good EV options which are getting better all the time.

Re: Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results

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post #56

Maybe we're getting to saturation in early adopter market? Looking around, there are a lot of folks who could not easily live with a BEV, i.e. live in apartment buildings or don't have an easy way to install L2 charging at home.

I'm a recent first time buyer of a (used) EV and use the L1 120v charger that came with the vehicle. The daily commute use is low enough that it charges to full overnight. Before I purchased I thought I'd need to pay for a L2 charger and hire an electrician to install a 240v circuit in the driveway. Turned it that I just needed a short 10ga extension cord from an existing 120v receptacle. Our household have a second…

I think one of the biggest enemies of EV adoption is that people just don't intrinsically understand that "refueling" is fundamentally different.

Re: Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results

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Setting aside the antics of the CEO, Teslas are increasingly unappealing. I don't want a "yoke", I don't want everything on a touch screen, and I don't want to try to navigate a roundabout using signal buttons on a steering wheel in the winter. I do want CarPlay.

A lot of this stuff is blatant cost-cutting with a fig leaf of "it's futuristic".

Re: Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results

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post #83
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m going to assume that awful Q1 results lead employees to suspect layoffs are on the way. I imagine they are correct.

Maybe not layoffs - maybe more the fact that their stock compensation will plummet in value as it is no longer a hyper growth stock. Also, the consequences of Elon’s misbehaviour has finally caught up with the branding so it is no longer cool to work there.

Again to Musk's reputation: he's not exactly layoff-averse. Even if it isn't strictly required I can't imagine he'd hesitate to pull the trigger.

Re: Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results

#117
Some things to think about.

- Tesla's charging network is opening up. I think this used to be the single biggest selling point.

- Tesla's repairability is not great, neither are the insurance rates.

- The 4680's have not exactly changed the world... might have made things cheaper for Tesla but that is about it.

- Some folks might think that Teslas aversion to buttons has reached peak dumb. Latest model 3 has even ditched the turn signals and drive-selector stalks...

- Requiring FSD demos prior to sales? GTFO.

- Musk is officially more of a liability than an asset.

Re: Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results

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post #73

Could it be that Musk's inflammatory language and behaviors are a turn off for potential buyers? They are a turn off for me. I like the vehicles but I'd never get one.

Yep. I am a current Tesla Model 3 owner, really like my car, but plan to switch to another brand after running this one into the ground. Elon's behavior is awful and dangerous given his fame/money, and luckily, unlike in 2017, there are now other good EV options which are getting better all the time.

How is the charging situation? I remember that everyone announced NACS and compatibility with the Tesla network a while ago, has that happened or is it still just promises?

Re: Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results

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post #64
post #6

i hope elon's behavior is part of the drop in demand. i'm afraid it is mostly economic though.

very few people outside the permanently online care about this

Perhaps! That leads to a question actually: I wonder how many people know that Musk intentionally reinstated accounts for literal neo nazis, and very obviously has personal knowledge of Andrew Anglin being on the service? I suspect most people do not know, because getting caught providing material support for nazism would destroy a normal person's reputation.

Re: Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results

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post #73

Could it be that Musk's inflammatory language and behaviors are a turn off for potential buyers? They are a turn off for me. I like the vehicles but I'd never get one.

The vast majority of the world doesn't exist in the online sphere. I think that they have saturated the initial EV buyers, mainstream is still afraid of EV and there's more anti-EV propaganda in the media than ever before.

> The vast majority of the world doesn't exist in the online sphere.

I wonder if the vast majority of potential Tesla customers does though.

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