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Launch HN: Thorntale (YC W24) – Presentation software that works with your data

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Re: Launch HN: Thorntale (YC W24) – Presentation software that works with your data

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Congrats on the launch, but just so you know your website is broken to the point of being unusable on mobile. Bookmarked to check on desktop because the story sounds intriguing!

Thanks for checking it out! What seemed broken to you, exactly? We've tested pretty extensively on mobile, but there always seem to be more edge cases in the wild

I messaged your LinkedIn company account with some screenshots.

Re: Launch HN: Thorntale (YC W24) – Presentation software that works with your data

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Congrats on launch! From reading a bit more about what you're doing, I do think there is something there with creating presentations that are evergreen, something beyond just a geckoboard dashboard that lives on past just creating a presentation one time. Do you have an idea of the main types of users who would want to use this? More thoughts https://youtu.be/cwjm6JhS5ZE

Thanks for making a video & detailed feedback! It's super helpful hearing your take. We'll definitely work on adding real use cases and vision to our home page. Main users are people that make presentations and communicate data. It's not one specific role, as this could mean PMs, tech leads, BizOps, Data Scientists, etc. Specific workflows: weekly product updates, post mortems, ad hoc analyses, all-hands, board decks…

I work in security and a use case I've had in the past and hacked together using a combination of Power BI and powerpoint (hey, license was already paid for!) was exporting tons of data from logs, load into Power BI to generate charts and metrics that related to security (especially vulnerability management). It was the same slide every time, just new data.

One thing that could be useful though is the ability to export a snapshot of what the slides would've been on any given day, for reference in the future (data might not be available in 2 years etc).

Re: Launch HN: Thorntale (YC W24) – Presentation software that works with your data

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This is a tough sell except maybe for product pre sales demos which you know the types of questions to expect, and the UX needs to be slick as hell.

For internal office presentation, I don’t see this being all that beneficial. Throwing multiple views and cuts of data in the appendix is pretty standard, and the data team usually collects those views as they decide what data to present to the business.

Re: Launch HN: Thorntale (YC W24) – Presentation software that works with your data

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for making a video & detailed feedback! It's super helpful hearing your take. We'll definitely work on adding real use cases and vision to our home page. Main users are people that make presentations and communicate data. It's not one specific role, as this could mean PMs, tech leads, BizOps, Data Scientists, etc. Specific workflows: weekly product updates, post mortems, ad hoc analyses, all-hands, board decks…

I work in security and a use case I've had in the past and hacked together using a combination of Power BI and powerpoint (hey, license was already paid for!) was exporting tons of data from logs, load into Power BI to generate charts and metrics that related to security (especially vulnerability management). It was the same slide every time, just new data. One thing that could be useful though is the ability to expo…

Snapshots are on our roadmap! It's partially implemented already, we didn't quite have enough time to finish it before launch.

Re: Launch HN: Thorntale (YC W24) – Presentation software that works with your data

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work in security and a use case I've had in the past and hacked together using a combination of Power BI and powerpoint (hey, license was already paid for!) was exporting tons of data from logs, load into Power BI to generate charts and metrics that related to security (especially vulnerability management). It was the same slide every time, just new data. One thing that could be useful though is the ability to expo…

Snapshots are on our roadmap! It's partially implemented already, we didn't quite have enough time to finish it before launch.

Nice!

Good luck with your product. As someone who regularly worked with tools like R Studio or Jupyter notebooks, it boggles my mind to still see monthly and quarterly presentations that are the same, except for some (badly) copy-pasta'd data, so there is a need for this!

Re: Launch HN: Thorntale (YC W24) – Presentation software that works with your data

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It's nuts you can't easily embed Looker charts into Google Slides. Google acquired them 4 years ago. If I search for "looker embed in google slide", most of what I see is about a company called "rollstack".

There's a couple of embedding startups out there -- I think there was one doing embedded analytics in our batch earlier on, but I don't remember if they pivoted. Looker is especially egregious in my opinion, since Google owns it. Mostly, we think it's unhinged that companies spend so much cash on Snowflake/BQ/Looker and friends, not to mention the cost of hiring data engineers and data scientists, and then don't actu…

Hard agree on the unhinged cost.

One thing we're working on at https://www.definite.app/ (full data stack for less than you spend on your daily coffee)

Re: Launch HN: Thorntale (YC W24) – Presentation software that works with your data

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post #13

This is a tough sell except maybe for product pre sales demos which you know the types of questions to expect, and the UX needs to be slick as hell. For internal office presentation, I don’t see this being all that beneficial. Throwing multiple views and cuts of data in the appendix is pretty standard, and the data team usually collects those views as they decide what data to present to the business.

You’re right, unfortunately it is pretty standard, and I found it to be a massive waste of my time. I was the person on the data team prepping those appendix slides. Before meetings, I talked with key stakeholders to make sure I had created charts that would answer potential questions. Instead of working on strategic projects, I was herding cats and formatting charts. A lot of times I was just doing riffs off the same table or query.

This is of course for larger readouts and companies. At smaller companies & for non-critical presentations, I didn’t even have time to create appendix slides. So instead my audience ended up with a backlog of questions that would never be answered.

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