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Launch HN: Thorntale (YC W24) – Presentation software that works with your data

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Hi HN! We’re Dori, John, and Ellen from Thorntale https://www.thorntale.com/, a new tool for making data driven presentations. We make it easier for product, engineering, and data teams to communicate their work. Here’s a video demo: https://youtu.be/yLCIo3jG2GM, and you can try it now at https://app.sandbox.thorntale.com without signing in.

Why? Because one of us (the data scientist) kept asking the other (a backend engineer) to move metrics from ClickHouse and CockroachDB, to Snowflake, to Looker, and then to Excel, so that she could make a chart in Excel for the BizOps team to screenshot, and finally stick in Google Slides. Besides being annoying for everyone, this produces inconsistencies and inaccuracies between the actual data and what got presented. We wasted three peoples’ time tracking down queries, going back and forth, and reformatting the same information. We’re building something that can replace PowerPoint/Google Slides for this kind of recurring presentation, with direct data connections and native charting, so that we can all stop screenshotting.

Here are some example presentations:

- A postmortem report: https://app.thorntale.com/report/Postmortem-Template-1755293...

- A product weekly OKR update: https://app.thorntale.com/report/Weekly-Product-OKR-Update-8...

- An exoplanet analysis: https://app.thorntale.com/report/Exoplanet-Analysis-demo-rep...

Thorntale has direct data connections and native charting, eliminating the need for screenshotting or pixel pushing. Currently, we can connect to and visualize data from Google Sheets, Snowflake, and Postgres, with plans to add more source types. We can create or update decks for recurring meetings (like weekly product updates) in minutes instead of hours, and our charts can be re-segmented to answer questions mid-presentation, instead of as a followup days later.

Another thing we’re trying to fix is the need to write a report in a document, only to recreate that report later in a slide deck. This is duplicate work, and splits what should be a single point of truth. Every Thorntale report is actually both a presentation and a document, in one. You can write your long version, choose which points are the most important, and include only those points in the presentation view. When people go back to read your work later, they can see the full context you started with. Try it with the /reportonly command in the tool.

We have grand plans for more — dbt support, more datasource connectors, direct embedding from BI tools like Looker and Tableau, contextual search, and more graph types — but right now we’ve got an early beta. You can check out our sandbox at https://app.sandbox.thorntale.com. Some features are restricted in sandbox mode, but if you like it, we’ve also got free and open signups at https://app.thorntale.com.

We’re really excited to share this with you all, and looking forward to your comments and feedback!

Re: Launch HN: Thorntale (YC W24) – Presentation software that works with your data

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Congrats on launch! From reading a bit more about what you're doing, I do think there is something there with creating presentations that are evergreen, something beyond just a geckoboard dashboard that lives on past just creating a presentation one time. Do you have an idea of the main types of users who would want to use this? More thoughts https://youtu.be/cwjm6JhS5ZE

Re: Launch HN: Thorntale (YC W24) – Presentation software that works with your data

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It's nuts you can't easily embed Looker charts into Google Slides. Google acquired them 4 years ago. If I search for "looker embed in google slide", most of what I see is about a company called "rollstack".

There's a couple of embedding startups out there -- I think there was one doing embedded analytics in our batch earlier on, but I don't remember if they pivoted. Looker is especially egregious in my opinion, since Google owns it.

Mostly, we think it's unhinged that companies spend so much cash on Snowflake/BQ/Looker and friends, not to mention the cost of hiring data engineers and data scientists, and then don't actually finish integrating it into the presentation layer.

Re: Launch HN: Thorntale (YC W24) – Presentation software that works with your data

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post #4

Congrats on the launch, but just so you know your website is broken to the point of being unusable on mobile. Bookmarked to check on desktop because the story sounds intriguing!

Thanks for checking it out! What seemed broken to you, exactly? We've tested pretty extensively on mobile, but there always seem to be more edge cases in the wild

Re: Launch HN: Thorntale (YC W24) – Presentation software that works with your data

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Congrats on launch! From reading a bit more about what you're doing, I do think there is something there with creating presentations that are evergreen, something beyond just a geckoboard dashboard that lives on past just creating a presentation one time. Do you have an idea of the main types of users who would want to use this? More thoughts https://youtu.be/cwjm6JhS5ZE

Thanks for making a video & detailed feedback! It's super helpful hearing your take. We'll definitely work on adding real use cases and vision to our home page.

Main users are people that make presentations and communicate data. It's not one specific role, as this could mean PMs, tech leads, BizOps, Data Scientists, etc. Specific workflows: weekly product updates, post mortems, ad hoc analyses, all-hands, board decks, revenue updates. Anything where understanding data is important.

Also, in your video description you linked the wrong startup homepage!

Re: Launch HN: Thorntale (YC W24) – Presentation software that works with your data

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post #4

Congrats on the launch, but just so you know your website is broken to the point of being unusable on mobile. Bookmarked to check on desktop because the story sounds intriguing!

Thanks for checking it out! What seemed broken to you, exactly? We've tested pretty extensively on mobile, but there always seem to be more edge cases in the wild

Unrelated to their point, but if you click on the "view a query" icon in a presentation and then try to get the popover to disappear, it's stuck and doesn't go away.

(Safari)

Re: Launch HN: Thorntale (YC W24) – Presentation software that works with your data

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for checking it out! What seemed broken to you, exactly? We've tested pretty extensively on mobile, but there always seem to be more edge cases in the wild

Unrelated to their point, but if you click on the "view a query" icon in a presentation and then try to get the popover to disappear, it's stuck and doesn't go away. (Safari)

Never mind, found it. Just deployed a fix, it should work now!
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