I met a nice Israeli filmography couple (somewhat known in Israel, I think) in Tulum last summer. After conducting important business, they were telling me about how they were vacating on the back of a nice windfall -- they got paid upfront for an editting/production job which was unprecedented and generous. Implications of lots of money and some "image rehabilitation". They're acting a bit coy about it, and I'm feel…
Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison
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Re: Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison
#372The US prison sentence lengths are insane.
I guess I'm really not sure what value there is to locking up someone like this for 25 years when in a sane system/society there should be far better options.
Re: Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison
#373Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's been posted a thousand times already, there is no parole for federal sentences.
Not "parole" but his sentence can be reduced. From the article: > There is no possibility of parole in federal criminal cases, but Bankman-Fried can still shave time off his 25-year sentence with good behavior. > "SBF may serve as little as 12.5 years, if he gets all of the jailhouse credit available to him," Mitchell Epner, a former federal prosecutor, told CNN. > Federal prisoners generally can earn up to 54 days o…
Re: Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison
#374To most people, just the act of losing everything you have, losing your ability to provide for your family or yourself. Losing your reputation, your career and future career opportunities, is enough to deter them. Whether a crime will give you 10 years or 20 years, most people consider that to be so long, that it's more or less all the same. It feels like an eternity, and it feels like your life is over. So if they are going to take a risk, or make a stupid decision, then they are going to do it regardless. Not because they accept the risk, but because nobody ever believes they are ever going to get caught. They consider that as "my life is over anyway". And usually, it is. That's not the point of prison. If you are ever going to let people out, why not focus on making sure they don't come back. Punishing people by throwing them in cages with worse people, absolutely does not work. (note: I am speaking mostly about non-violent crimes, which make up 72% of the federal system)
Re: Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison
#375Re: Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison
#376To put this into its proper perspective, see table 7 here: https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/research-and-pu... In 2022, the average murderer in the Federal Southern District of New York (N = 58) was sentenced to a median of 231 months, which comes out to 19 years and change. No crime of any type had an mean or median sentence higher than 25 years; most were far less than half. So it should be really hard…
Re: Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison
#377This type of punishment is actually pretty terrible for all parties. I could easily see a different, harsher, but more fair punishment... 1. All assets are sold off to pay victims 2. Prison for a few years. 5? 3. can only work jobs where nobody reports to them (no management, C levels, etc). Also cannot make companies. 4. Cannot own more than 2 properties, one of which is his place of residence. 5. Cannot rent out an…
Re: Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison
#378Re: Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison
#379Quite a short sentence for the magnitude of the crime. Financial crimes like these do kill people and destroy countless lives. They deserve maximum pentalties.
prison should fundamentally be abt rehabilitation, not whatever retribution random ppl think is “proportional”
You can’t ignore retribution and incapacitation. Focus solely on rehabilitation and people will take the law into their own hands while raging against the system when it comes to recividism.
We need to focus more on rehabilitation and restoration. But those can’t be exclusive of the other components of justice.