If we could do the same for people 16 and over, the world would be a better place.
Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16
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So it's better to not have any data and live in continued ignorance?
It’s better to have no data than one high-profile poorly-executed experiment.
Everything in our society at scale is going to be “poorly executed”.
If your idea only succeeds when the smartest people are running it, and they can’t make any mistakes, then it’s not actually a good idea.
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iOS controls effectively block adult sites and you can manually add sites to block and not allow apps being installed without your permission. What else do you need?
Some control over when certain apps can be used.
That has nothing to do with “protecting the children” from sites you don’t want them to see or apps you don’t want them to use at all.
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I don't follow your logic. The legislation is designed to minimize the negative effects of social media on teens. This can be measured and compared to states other than Florida. How do 'the needs of the governing politicians' confound that data?
It can be measured?
Yes, it can.
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How do you propose that social media sites verify your age without showing them your ID?
By showing a third party their ID that doesn't share the actual ID with eg, Facebook. That third party would then share their status with Facebook. Facebook doesn't get the ID, but does get to verify that they're of age (or not).
So now the government still has a way to match a user with a real person and we have to trust a third party company with our ID?
And I should have to do that as a 50 year old guy with grown kids for “the children”?
How about if parents are concerned about their kids, they should use the parental controls that are already available.
And this isn’t theoretical for me. I live in Florida.
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It’s better to have no data than one high-profile poorly-executed experiment.
Everything in our society at scale is going to be “poorly executed”. If your idea only succeeds when the smartest people are running it, and they can’t make any mistakes, then it’s not actually a good idea.
How many times have any of us created a PoC that gets deployed into production? Things fall down, and are attempted to be improved like changing a tire on car driving 60mph down the highway without pulling over.
Do you stop the car, take a look at everything, make changes, and then put the car back on the road? Do you pull into pit row, change the tires in If the current situation isn't work, the worst thing to do is nothing. Paralysis by analysis can be deadly
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Although I don't support it, would the internet be a better place with people being identified? For this to be a constructive discussion, can we assume companies have a proper and secure way to validate identities and store your data? A lot of the extremism we see online is because people hide behind their keyboard. I sometimes wonder if the internet as we know it and social medias pervasive influence would be much d…
> would the internet be a better place with people being identified? No. Marginalized groups __need__ their anonymity to be safe. Should a teenager in Utah be doxxed by a message board where they're working through their gender identity? What about a kid in Georgia that's working through whether or not they believe the religion they were raised in? How about a wife who is beginning the research process and asking que…
You bring up a good point. How were these problems addressed before the internet?
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Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16
#619Earlier quoted context omitted.
Although I don't support it, would the internet be a better place with people being identified? For this to be a constructive discussion, can we assume companies have a proper and secure way to validate identities and store your data? A lot of the extremism we see online is because people hide behind their keyboard. I sometimes wonder if the internet as we know it and social medias pervasive influence would be much d…
> A lot of the extremism we see online is because people hide behind their keyboard. Maybe this is true, but we also have to think about the perfectly reasonable things we nevertheless wouldn’t want pinned on us. Political opinions, of which many of mine are half-baked and I am writing to test with other smart people, but I don’t want to necessarily be associated with them forever. I don’t want to worry that simply s…
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You are totally right housing prices have skyrocketed relative to wages, but you cant just tell kids they are doomed. There have always been good times and hard times and there are always people who succeed or fail regardless.
> but you cant just tell kids they are doomed Lying to them when they can see the evidence to the contrary is better?
They are not doomed.