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Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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thepasswordis wrote: post #506
redserk wrote: post #260

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I'm not a lawyer so I'll happily accept a more thorough analysis. My quick reading of the bill leads me to think that smaller forums might actually qualify -- unless I missed a section on size of social network. This bill says: (I apologize for the incredibly bad formatting below, I've edited a few times to try to get things right) > A social media site must fufill the criteria: > ... > 2. Ten percent or more of the…

Neither HN, nor forums would qualify for this. Reddit would. Afaik, HN does not tailor the front page per user (log out then log back in. The FP is the same)

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Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by wannacboatmovie »

groby_b wrote: post #361
wannacboatmovie wrote: post #336

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They sound like incompetent business proprietors. When did having a website become something exclusively for old people? Millennials are in their 30s and 40s.

Their competence is measured by their success, not your opinions. And it turns out that in many professions, an insta is the thing you need for success. If you don't like it, that's your problem, not theirs. You're part of a small enough group they don't care about. I'm not sure how that's an age question in the first place, though. The "being run by millenials" throwaway by GP is just... well, at best, sloppy thinki…

Placing your online marketing behind an auth wall (Insta) is the definition of incompetence.

Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by WalterBright »

maximinus_thrax wrote: post #438
LVB wrote: post #360

Let the experiment take place, I say. Just like Oregon’s now-repealed drug use decriminalization bill. It didn’t achieve its intended goals, but there is now a mass of data about what assumptions were wrong, implementation issues, etc. IMO there is real value in letting states put such changes into play to get beyond the debate and actually test the hypotheses.

> Let the experiment take place, I say. I think the experiment is more about the judiciary and about tribal politics. There's ample case law against something like this, so to me this seems unconstitutional, and I doubt it will stand. But DeSantis will win some more heart and minds of the folks who secretly do want big government protecting them from the boogieman. Regardless of anyone's views about social media, the…

> the government wants 'papers please' for you to access a website should really scare everyone

We've been doing that for R and X movies forever.

Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by sandspar »

bvasilchenko wrote: post #36

Ah! The good old party of small government, individual liberties and free market. Well done sticking to your principals sirs and madams!

DeSantis has built his brand around protecting kids from institutions. This law is consistent with that.

Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by scarface_74 »

wvenable wrote: post #510
scarface_74 wrote: post #508

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I can’t speak for PCs or Android devices. But iOS devices already have parental controls built in as do Macs

iOS parental controls are awful. The only way to get any decent control for my concerns that the moment is using the downtime features all day long. Effectively I've told iOS that he should be in bed for 23 hours and 55 minutes a day. It's ridiculous and extremely limiting. Microsoft's parental controls are sort of ok. I also have separate control software for Windows and I have controls at the router. Of course, non…

iOS controls effectively block adult sites and you can manually add sites to block and not allow apps being installed without your permission. What else do you need?

Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by vundercind »

smallerfish wrote: post #399
nicoburns wrote: post #343

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> When did having a website become something exclusively for old people? It's more that having a website never became a thing for many businesses in the first place. 30 years ago they might have had a listing in the phone book. Nowadays that kind of business might have a facebook page, or more recently an instagram account. Creating a website (even with something like wix) requires a level of skill and effort above t…

They're just being cheap. Facebook is free (and "everybody has Facebook") whereas Wix and Squarespace are $12-$15/mo for businesses.

For a lot of businesses, a website receives way fewer views than any one of their top-3 social media sites.

I’ve seen a lot who are still paying for a site but rarely bother to update it. All the traffic’s on Facebook.

Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by d3nj4l »

koolba wrote: post #513
Paul-Craft wrote: post #491

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How is that legally relevant?

As society changes, it’s reasonable for a court to re-examine the effects of previously decided legislation to gauge whether the impact and societal cost can be justified. It’s not like we don’t have other laws that restrict what we can do or where we can do it.

How would that change the constitutionality (or lack thereof) of the matter?

Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by brightball »

LVB wrote: post #360

Let the experiment take place, I say. Just like Oregon’s now-repealed drug use decriminalization bill. It didn’t achieve its intended goals, but there is now a mass of data about what assumptions were wrong, implementation issues, etc. IMO there is real value in letting states put such changes into play to get beyond the debate and actually test the hypotheses.

Completely agree. Let states experiment and learn from each other.

Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by WalterBright »

spicykraken wrote: post #389
tremon wrote: post #357

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Plenty of other goods and services are used by children, even targeted at them, without them needing to enter a contract.

Children aren't allowed to play slot machines either and that's what TikTok (and Youtube Shorts, etc) sure feels like to me.

I desperately wanted to gamble with slot machines when I was a minor. When I reached 21, I had lost all interest in them.

Re: Florida's DeSantis signs law restricting social media for people under 16

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Post by unstruktured »

edgyquant wrote: post #5
setgree wrote: post #3

I support this in theory, but good luck trying to outmaneuver teens on the internet. I foresee a proliferation of age faking tools, VPNs, etc.

If you start fining the social media companies for breaking this law, this problem will be fixed quickly. Your demoralization propaganda is a line perpetuated by these companies to avoid responsibility

decentralized approaches would be resilient to that.
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