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Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by iknowstuff »

iinnPP wrote: post #118

When I purchased a laptop last year I went with MSI: 32GB RAM 1TB SSD 4080 12GB 3 USBC 2 USB3.2 $2100 CAD. My only complaint was Windows 11 which was immediately rectified. Though not before having a full screen Xbox Live ad that couldn't be closed through any means. Since removing MS the laptop functions perfectly, runs models locally without any fuss and powers any game I want at 4k60hz or 3k144hz(1440p). What is t…

With all due respect, the difference in looks between the Surfaces and your laptop is justification enough.

I mean this sincerely. People are willing to pay for good design.

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Post by m463 »

charlie0 wrote: post #140
vizzier wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ...can't stop trying to upsell people into using onedrive, forcefully signs you into onedrive, syncs your local files into their cloud without consent, tries really hard to not let you sign in with a local account and most likely does other shady things. This portion of the complaint was a playbook that was defined by Apple and icloud. Feels like an out of the frying pan into the fire situation.

You can use Mac without icloud. They don't push it nearly as hard as Windows.

On the other hand apple collects lots of telemetry out of sight.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by jjeaff »

farawayea wrote: post #75

This is the same company which puts ads all over the OS, can't stop trying to upsell people into using onedrive, forcefully signs you into onedrive, syncs your local files into their cloud without consent, tries really hard to not let you sign in with a local account and most likely does other shady things. Their hardware is more or less garbage. My Surface had a swollen battery which killed the device. It had other…

You need to get windows 11 pro. the home versions or anything less than pro is subsidized by ads.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by Ecstatify »

HackerLemon wrote: post #115
Ecstatify wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After getting a Mac I’ll never purchase a Windows device again. + Terrible battery + Terrible build quality + Terrible support + Noise of fan having a stroke

Every single windows device ever has "Terrible build quality"? Weird take

€3K Dell XPS

- Screen broke (Never left the desk)

- “Carbon” started to peel, looks like the laptop has dandruff

——

Lenovo

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/litigation/lenovo-class-settle...

So many relatives/friends buying €800-€1000 devices that become unusable after 1/2 years.

Plastic junk.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by wtallis »

delfinom wrote: post #84
farawayea wrote: post #75

This is the same company which puts ads all over the OS, can't stop trying to upsell people into using onedrive, forcefully signs you into onedrive, syncs your local files into their cloud without consent, tries really hard to not let you sign in with a local account and most likely does other shady things. Their hardware is more or less garbage. My Surface had a swollen battery which killed the device. It had other…

>My Surface had a swollen battery which killed the device. Statistically, all devices suffer from swollen batteries. I've even see iPhones and iPads die from swollen batteries. There's a certain tiny % fallout in manufacturing of battery cells where they may degrade and fail prematurely and swelling is a safety feature.

Eventually, almost all LiPo batteries will puff up. But there are definitely some devices that reliably cause this problem far sooner than it should occurr, due to poor charge management and thermal management.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by wtallis »

sdflhasjd wrote: post #127
lotsofpulp wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are SSD’s fungible? I thought there were varying qualities.

They aren't fungible, but even for a high-end 512GB SSD, $200 is rip-off pricing. In fact, a top-end SSD range won't even offer 512 sizes because aside from not really being worth it, transfer-rate performance is lower with smaller chips.

> transfer-rate performance is lower with smaller chips.

Transfer speed is lower with fewer chips, and older less-dense flash memory doesn't stay in production forever, and is more expensive per GB.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by wtallis »

dagmx wrote: post #51
e44858 wrote: post #32

Tablet CPU is Intel Core Ultra 7 165U, which should perform similar to an M1 Pro: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/5825vs4584/Intel-Ultra-...

What’s the comparison like for the battery life and GPU? Afaik it’s the areas that really lag on the Intel side. I’m hopeful they’re competitive now on both.

Intel roughly doubled their iGPU performance with the latest Meteor Lake generation, but the low-power U series parts cut the GPU in half. So they'll still be in last place.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by noworriesnate »

codeulike wrote: post #96
farawayea wrote: post #75

This is the same company which puts ads all over the OS, can't stop trying to upsell people into using onedrive, forcefully signs you into onedrive, syncs your local files into their cloud without consent, tries really hard to not let you sign in with a local account and most likely does other shady things. Their hardware is more or less garbage. My Surface had a swollen battery which killed the device. It had other…

Surface is pretty well regarded as I understand it. Microsoft set out to make 'the sortof macbook equivlaent for windows' and largely succeeded. Although obviously macbook remains the champion overall I guess. I'm sorry you had a battery problem. For some of the best Windows hardware on the market, look no further than Microsoft’s Surface brand - WIRED Also: I dont ever see ads in Windows, but I guess somone must be…

The new Windows mail app has ads in it that look almost exactly like normal emails. They pushed me to adopt it from the old mail app and I'm regretting the decision. Apple's mail apps never do that.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Post by Terretta »

farawayea wrote: post #75

This is the same company which puts ads all over the OS, can't stop trying to upsell people into using onedrive, forcefully signs you into onedrive, syncs your local files into their cloud without consent, tries really hard to not let you sign in with a local account and most likely does other shady things. Their hardware is more or less garbage. My Surface had a swollen battery which killed the device. It had other…

> Why would people give money to Microsoft for such bad hardware? They treat their customers like garbage.

Who cares. Just make sure Apple isn't allowed to hold a line on doing things differently, then everyone else can compete fine?

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