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Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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They're the only viable option to have a "work" (or call it "pro") tablet at this point. Apple will need to come up with an iPad with software on par with the mac to make the Surface Pro irrelevant. Until then, living with Windows stays a better tradeoff.

Lenovo Thinkpad X12 is also a good option of "work" Tablet. A refresh is coming. Having been using it for SolidWorks, Altium, C development for a few years now.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Good build quality but unreliable. Bought a Surface, used it rarely, tried to pass it on to my eldest but it refused to start within 12 months.

Surface Pro 4 had broken OpenGL driver. Every software that requires OpenGL (basically all CAD software) crashes on it. Microsoft has all the incentive to cripple OpenGL. A generic Intel graphic driver cannot even be installed on surface. You have to use the Microsoft supplied one. Never bought a single surface again.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Microsoft continue to ship their Surface laptops with over-sized power bricks, which is enough to disqualify them.

Similar spec Samsung laptops (Galaxy Books) come with a regular USB-C cable and a fast charging power adapter that looks like any other plug.

Anybody know why Samsung can do this and Microsoft can't?

Only having to lug around a single cable and charger for all devices is a dealbreaker.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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I liked it when their wonderful hardware design team tried really daring things with their form factors. The Studio giant screen you can tilt and draw on. The Surface Book that has the tilting screen. The one with the detachable screen. The Surface Duo and Neo.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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They're the only viable option to have a "work" (or call it "pro") tablet at this point. Apple will need to come up with an iPad with software on par with the mac to make the Surface Pro irrelevant. Until then, living with Windows stays a better tradeoff.

Lenovo Thinkpad X12 is also a good option of "work" Tablet. A refresh is coming. Having been using it for SolidWorks, Altium, C development for a few years now.

Yes !

I was eyeing at one, Dell also have some, but both only had FHD screens. Asus has the Z13 line with higher end specs (in particular discrete GPU options), but sadly less accessory compatibility than the Surface Po line.

Lenovo has been doing a lot work on their laptop lines recently, a new X12 with a refreshed screen would be a super nice machine.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Apple charges $200 more for 8GB to 16GB RAM. The new surface laptop is charging $300 to go from 8GB to 16GB :) https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/configure/Surface-Lapt...

At least the SSD is not soldered down.

Yup and looks like SSD upgrade from 256 to 512 is just $100.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Most people don't want desktops. So powerful laptops are preferred. Macbooks don't support Linux officially. But Intel laptops do support them. So no matter how fast and efficient Macbooks are, people will still buy decent Intel laptops instead of the best Macbooks.

Have you tried running Linux natively on a secureboot Surface? If you are running Linux in a vm, both are fine. Most people want battery life, and if someone can afford to get either of these devices, they would be better off renting their heavy compute somewhere else.

> Have you tried running Linux natively on a secureboot Surface?

You can turn off secureboot quite easily: https://parinzee.github.io/linux-surface-overlay/docs/Instal...

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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I'll keep my old Surface for now.

The next real change will bei AMD Strix with a good integrated GPU or Intels Arrow Lake which should draw much less power than the current generation. If possible with on-die memory for performance and less power usage.

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