What do people even really do on their work computers? Just email? Powerpoint?
I use mine to get banned from reddit.
Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10
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#42Good build quality but unreliable. Bought a Surface, used it rarely, tried to pass it on to my eldest but it refused to start within 12 months.
We had similar experiences with my wife's Surface and her brother's Surface
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#43So the headphone jack is definitely gone, and we're stuck at 2 usb ports.
That was the situation brought with the Surface Pro 9 already, but I wish they did something to aleviate either of these.
It feels like the only decent upgrade from a Surface Pro 8 will be an Asus Z13 ?
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#45Tablet CPU is Intel Core Ultra 7 165U, which should perform similar to an M1 Pro: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/5825vs4584/Intel-Ultra-...
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The way normal rational people buy computers is as follows. First they decide what they want to do, then they choose applications that do those things. Then they choose an operating system that can host the application. Finally they choose a hardware platform that runs both the operating system and the application.
Under this process, few users face a choice between a Mac and a Surface.
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#46Good build quality but unreliable. Bought a Surface, used it rarely, tried to pass it on to my eldest but it refused to start within 12 months.
We had similar experiences with my wife's Surface and her brother's Surface
If you havent try holding the start button for 30-60 seconds, seems like I have to do this for my surface go and surface laptop once every 6 months.
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#47Yawn, what is this ad driven nonsense, just give us a spec sheet. Who really wants to scroll through 5 pages of marketing drivel to get the details. >From a performance perspective, Surface Laptop 6 is 2x faster than Laptop 52, and Surface Pro 10 is up to 53% faster than Pro 9. The competition here is macbook and ipad, not last years stuff. Why do the surface people keep hamstringing themselves with intel? I am confu…
Specs: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/surface-laptop-6-for-busin... They're using Intel because there's no other option for a Microsoft product running Windows. Also, Intel is rapidly catching up to TSMC in the lithography race, and will leapfrog them very soon, likely by the end of this year. The top-end model uses the Intel Core Ultra 7 165H, which is this thing: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/…
Passmark is known to be a bad benchmark, something like Geekbench which has results that closely match with the industry standard SPEC would be a better comparison for real life performance.
M3: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/5411370
Intel 165H: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/5387822
Around the same multi-core results, significantly better single core for the M3.
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#48Why this non-sense in pricing?
- 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD is $1200
- 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD is $1500
This is much worse than Apple, and I thought MSFT was more sensible than that!
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#49Tablet CPU is Intel Core Ultra 7 165U, which should perform similar to an M1 Pro: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/5825vs4584/Intel-Ultra-...
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They're the only viable option to have a "work" (or call it "pro") tablet at this point.
Apple will need to come up with an iPad with software on par with the mac to make the Surface Pro irrelevant. Until then, living with Windows stays a better tradeoff.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Specs: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/surface-laptop-6-for-busin... They're using Intel because there's no other option for a Microsoft product running Windows. Also, Intel is rapidly catching up to TSMC in the lithography race, and will leapfrog them very soon, likely by the end of this year. The top-end model uses the Intel Core Ultra 7 165H, which is this thing: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/…
Why would anyone be doing this on their glued in laptop? If they are needing a dev machine, are you really trying to argue this is better than the mbp, thinkpads, hps or dells? You are claiming performance figures at what 115W max turbo? What is the max consumption on the macbook 55W on CPU, 33W on GPU? If performance matters, they should be doing the heavy lifting remotely. Most people will be using single threaded…
Most people don't want desktops. So powerful laptops are preferred. Macbooks don't support Linux officially. But Intel laptops do support them. So no matter how fast and efficient Macbooks are, people will still buy decent Intel laptops instead of the best Macbooks.