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Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Tablet CPU is Intel Core Ultra 7 165U, which should perform similar to an M1 Pro: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/5825vs4584/Intel-Ultra-...

What’s the comparison like for the battery life and GPU? Afaik it’s the areas that really lag on the Intel side. I’m hopeful they’re competitive now on both.

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They make ARM surfaces.

Yeah... shitty ones. Microsoft just doesn't have the will to make top-performing mobile gear. Or the oxygen in that space has been sucked out by Apple.

Snapdragon X surfaces will launch in near future as well. Hope they are more competitive with Macbooks.

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post #35

Good build quality but unreliable. Bought a Surface, used it rarely, tried to pass it on to my eldest but it refused to start within 12 months.

I can confirm. I’ve had two surfaces and both have had serious failures about 1-2 years into medium usage with no physical damage.

Meanwhile, all my Thinkpads and MacBooks still work today.

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Why would anyone be doing this on their glued in laptop? If they are needing a dev machine, are you really trying to argue this is better than the mbp, thinkpads, hps or dells? You are claiming performance figures at what 115W max turbo? What is the max consumption on the macbook 55W on CPU, 33W on GPU? If performance matters, they should be doing the heavy lifting remotely. Most people will be using single threaded…

Most people don't want desktops. So powerful laptops are preferred. Macbooks don't support Linux officially. But Intel laptops do support them. So no matter how fast and efficient Macbooks are, people will still buy decent Intel laptops instead of the best Macbooks.

Have you tried running Linux natively on a secureboot Surface?

If you are running Linux in a vm, both are fine.

Most people want battery life, and if someone can afford to get either of these devices, they would be better off renting their heavy compute somewhere else.

Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Good build quality but unreliable. Bought a Surface, used it rarely, tried to pass it on to my eldest but it refused to start within 12 months.

Other anecdote, I cycle-toured for a year camping in all kind of uncomfortable places, and my Surface Pro 7 survived. The screen is cracked in a million places from getting smashed around with all my other kit, but it still works. The Type Cover is a bit crap, though. After going through one of them while on the road (PowerToys Keyboard Manager is your friend) now I've been living in an apartment with a roof and everything, and another one died from what I can only assume to be humidity. I gave up and switched to a cheap bluetooth keyboard instead, which kinda feels more cool and futuristic anyway.

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The way normal rational people buy computers is as follows. First they decide what they want to do, then they choose applications that do those things. Then they choose an operating system that can host the application. Finally they choose a hardware platform that runs both the operating system and the application. Under this process, few users face a choice between a Mac and a Surface.

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Re: Microsoft Launches Surface Laptop 6 for Business and Surface Pro 10

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Yawn, what is this ad driven nonsense, just give us a spec sheet. Who really wants to scroll through 5 pages of marketing drivel to get the details. >From a performance perspective, Surface Laptop 6 is 2x faster than Laptop 52, and Surface Pro 10 is up to 53% faster than Pro 9. The competition here is macbook and ipad, not last years stuff. Why do the surface people keep hamstringing themselves with intel? I am confu…

I'm deeply disappointed there is no longer an AMD surface laptop with one of the custom designs pushing for a mobile Xbox level of GPU (no ray tracing) just so we can do business and light gaming or video or 3d modeling or whatever when you plug in even. AMD has some wild igpu designs in low power envelopes so I'm baffled that Microsoft just bailed on the line. I have a surface laptop 4 13in AMD model and love it but…

This. By far the worst part of Surface is 3D. Each time they show the improvements in the latest Intel range I get excited and hope finally I can just impulse buy a new game, but even if in theory the chip could handle it, the industry gives the middle finger to anything not AMD or Nvidia, to the point some recent games just refuse to start up at all.

Now I check https://old.reddit.com/r/SurfaceGaming/ before buying anything, and the results are always disappointing. I don't know whether to blame the game developers or Intel, because there are games that run perfectly fine in reduced quality, but it's such a crapshoot.

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