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Intel to Receive $8.5B in Grants to Build Chip Plants

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Re: Intel to Receive $8.5B in Grants to Build Chip Plants

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Your point is bad. Ignoring the fact that Intel's bread and butter is the CPU, of which they have a dominant gaming marketshare, is obtuse.

They missed the GPU market (AI/ML/Gaming) and the console market. Hence they lost all of that to Nvidia and AMD. Both of those companies now have a bigger market cap than Intel. How is this so difficult to understand? It is very simple, not obtuse, unless you are autistic. Nvidia market cap is $2.26 Trillion. AMD market cap is $290 Billion. Intel market cap is $178 Billion. AMD and Nvidia used to be a tiny fraction o…

"Autistic". You keep using that word, but I don't think it means what you think it means.

Are we back in kindergarten, with name calling?

Re: Intel to Receive $8.5B in Grants to Build Chip Plants

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They missed the GPU market (AI/ML/Gaming) and the console market. Hence they lost all of that to Nvidia and AMD. Both of those companies now have a bigger market cap than Intel. How is this so difficult to understand? It is very simple, not obtuse, unless you are autistic. Nvidia market cap is $2.26 Trillion. AMD market cap is $290 Billion. Intel market cap is $178 Billion. AMD and Nvidia used to be a tiny fraction o…

"Autistic". You keep using that word, but I don't think it means what you think it means. Are we back in kindergarten, with name calling?

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Re: Intel to Receive $8.5B in Grants to Build Chip Plants

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They missed the GPU market (AI/ML/Gaming) and the console market. Hence they lost all of that to Nvidia and AMD. Both of those companies now have a bigger market cap than Intel. How is this so difficult to understand? It is very simple, not obtuse, unless you are autistic. Nvidia market cap is $2.26 Trillion. AMD market cap is $290 Billion. Intel market cap is $178 Billion. AMD and Nvidia used to be a tiny fraction o…

"Autistic". You keep using that word, but I don't think it means what you think it means. Are we back in kindergarten, with name calling?

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Re: Intel to Receive $8.5B in Grants to Build Chip Plants

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Calling it slave labour is an insult to the people who had to live with actual slavery.

The people who flagged this comment must believe that someone working at McDonald's for low wages is the same as someone being held as property, their family members terrorized, raped, beaten, whipped, murdered, etc. at the whim of their legal owners.

> someone being held as property, their family members terrorized, raped, beaten, whipped, murdered, etc. at the whim of their legal owners.

Which is coincidentally quite similar to the treatment of North Korean and Chinese penal workers. Russian labor camps are pretty far up there too.

Many Foxconn factories have armed guards, but it's not to keep people out...

Re: Intel to Receive $8.5B in Grants to Build Chip Plants

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I guess in your mind it is not possible for both things to be bad? As long as we have the bogeyman of the DOD budget, any money spent that is even a penny less than the DOD budget is OK, is that how you see things?

Well, the DoD budget is 2 orders of magnitude more than this so it's about 80 quadrillion pennies less.

Sorry bad math, it’s only 80 trillion.

Re: Intel to Receive $8.5B in Grants to Build Chip Plants

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You're right, I mistook the year-to-date figure for the full-year projection. That said, > It's been widely reported [1] that the US debt reached $32T in June 2023, $33T in Sept 2023, $34T January 2024, achieving those milestones roughly every 100 days. The projections indicate an exponential increase, which doesn't help the case for sustainability. These figures aren't interesting because they include debt that the…

Nice smooth exponential curve, debt held by public as percentage of GDP through 2053.[1] During the GFC, the projections always flattened over the long term. There's no longer even a pretense of plans to normalize. We've lived for a long time in the "no serious consequences" regime; this set of projections seems different. [1] https://www.cbo.gov/publication/59711

This seems to have more to do with population growth projections over the very long run rather than anything that's actually going on in Congress right now.

Bottom line, our taxes need to go up modestly in the coming decades... but only if these assumptions actually prove to be true:

> Inflation slows through 2026 to a rate that is consistent with the Federal Reserve’s long-term goal of 2 percent and then remains at rates that are consistent with that goal from 2026 to 2054.

> Interest rates generally rise over the next three decades, largely as a result of projected increases in federal borrowing and in capital income as a share of total income.

... I doubt it! Look what happens to interest rates in graying countries like Japan.

Re: Intel to Receive $8.5B in Grants to Build Chip Plants

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> Its an unfortunate fact of life that we can't build a utopia with no illness or suffering. That is not a fact. Progress is accelerating, and we need to keep pushing. It's the quintessential virtue.

You honestly believe we can invent our way into a utopia with no illness, no poverty, etc?

Yes. We're well on our way.

https://ourworldindata.org/a-history-of-global-living-condit...

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/world-population-in-extre...

https://ourworldindata.org/cancer

https://www.vox.com/2014/12/14/7384515/extreme-poverty-decli...

https://www.reddit.com/r/OptimistsUnite/comments/1bjaog6/fil...

Re: Intel to Receive $8.5B in Grants to Build Chip Plants

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> Do you think that if Ukraine was not being courted by US that it would've been invaded like that ? Invaded? Probably not. Becoming a second Belarus? Yes. Overall it would have meant a Russia - NATO border closer to me. I prefer an Ukrainian - Russian NATO border far, far more.

If you give me a choice between Ukraine being a second Belarus and risking WWIII or a nuclear exchange, my answer will be easy to choose.

Be careful guys, this is Russia's "Final Warning": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China's_final_warning

Re: Intel to Receive $8.5B in Grants to Build Chip Plants

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NATO doesn’t take countries with active border conflicts and for good reason. I am glad that NATO did not take Ukraine then, even if I am open to it once this conflict resolves.

NATO does nothing to resolve an active occupation between member states (Cyprus). NATO only does things when it benefits the US.

> NATO does nothing to resolve an active occupation between member states (Cyprus).

What are you talking about? Turkey's 'occupation' is not of a member state.

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>Japan can change this on a whim with one meeting of the legislature. You think Japan can't change its own laws? Please have some clue about what you're talking about first: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Japan#Amendmen... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_96_of_the_Japanese_Con... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_9_of_the_Japanese_Cons... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Mutual…

All that shit is irrelevant. The prime Minister of Japan is actively talking about defending Taiwan if it's attacked. The people of Japan probably won't complain. The US won't complain. South Korea won't complain. And that's not even counting a casus belli that might make it justifiable (e.g. some Japanese citizen in Taiwan gets harmed, or chind sends missiles to US based in Okinawa) What exactly do you think is the…

>The people of Japan probably won't complain.

Again, have some clue about what you're talking about first. You are embarrassing yourself.

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