i wasn't aware there was a free tier of Copilot, from reading the article it sounds like an entirely different product than Github Copilot, right?
Yes. "Copilot" is just chatbot, now. The copilot that helps you code is now called "Github Copilot". I guess Microsoft couldn't leave a good name alone.
Microsoft is giving Copilot users access to GPT-4-Turbo for free
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Re: Microsoft is giving Copilot users access to GPT-4-Turbo for free
#42Given the ongoing issues with ChatGPT (slow and _incredibly_ lazy) and all the copilot nonsense, as well as my growing aversion of how MS are muscling in on this space, I’m about to make a wholesale switch to Claude for my API and chat access
I recommend mistral because you can use it for AI development while Anthropic explicitly forbids use to develop AI.
Re: Microsoft is giving Copilot users access to GPT-4-Turbo for free
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or perhaps “chat” just isn’t the best use of LLMs. Autocomplete-based integrations, rather than chat, could be better. I know I love and get great utility from GitHub Copilot, but not really any online or offline LLM chatbot. Also, from a UX perspective, I feel an autocomplete-based UI encourages me to make sure the thing “I’m saying” is actually what I mean to say - ie, to not implicitly trust LLM hallucinations. LL…
I use llms to write text for me sometimes simply to rewrite it myself because sometimes having something to criticise is better than having to create from scratch
Re: Microsoft is giving Copilot users access to GPT-4-Turbo for free
#44Get users hooked with free access. Wait few years. Start having lawyers tweak terms of service. Charge corporate customers a shit ton of money as free users sell their junk. Yank “free” tier, with none to minimal notice due to ToS. Cite limited resource constraint. Stick previously free users with $99/month access. MSFT stock pumps hard for the next few years.
The fact that MS is doing this could be a sign that most people just don't find much utility in these AI tools. Like you said, they're trying to get people hooked. But if AI isn't any useful to people in the first place, this goes nowhere and they're still stuck with a low/decreasing amount of users.
Re: Microsoft is giving Copilot users access to GPT-4-Turbo for free
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
The fact that MS is doing this could be a sign that most people just don't find much utility in these AI tools. Like you said, they're trying to get people hooked. But if AI isn't any useful to people in the first place, this goes nowhere and they're still stuck with a low/decreasing amount of users.
Or perhaps “chat” just isn’t the best use of LLMs. Autocomplete-based integrations, rather than chat, could be better. I know I love and get great utility from GitHub Copilot, but not really any online or offline LLM chatbot. Also, from a UX perspective, I feel an autocomplete-based UI encourages me to make sure the thing “I’m saying” is actually what I mean to say - ie, to not implicitly trust LLM hallucinations. LL…
Re: Microsoft is giving Copilot users access to GPT-4-Turbo for free
#46Is this the same as the Copilot that is in VSCode via the Extensions? It's possibly confusing, or just very simple. I'm not sure :-D
Microsoft it currently renaming all chatbots and direct LLM-backed applications "copilots". It makes it very difficult to navigate their offerings. But I think it is kinda similar to how OpenAI is trying to call everything backed by their models a "GPT"
Microsoft has always done stuff like this. For instance, it was hard to know if you needed Windows Deluxe Professional Edition, Windows Master Programmer Developer Edition, or Windows Demigod Master of the Universe Edition (those might not be the exact names :-)
I suspect that the goal there was to confuse people enough that the wealthy bought the most expensive one just so they were sure they "got everything", while not losing the sale to the poor schlub who could only afford Windows Broke-ass Fool You Suck Edition.
Re: Microsoft is giving Copilot users access to GPT-4-Turbo for free
#47Is this the same as the Copilot that is in VSCode via the Extensions? It's possibly confusing, or just very simple. I'm not sure :-D
This is about Microsoft Copilot – https://copilot.microsoft.com/ – not Github Copilot – https://github.com/features/copilot
There are a lot of “Copilot” extensions for VSCode, including Github Copilot, but none for Microsoft Copilot, AFAIK.
> It’s possibly confusing,
No, after Github Copilot being around for a while, Microsoft rebranding everything that is AI assistants “Copilot” (with “Microsoft” in some contexts, but often just bare) is confusing, especially since it follows lots of other projects adopting the X Copilot thing in between “Github Copilot” becoming popular and Microsoft introducing their new Copilot branding.
Re: Microsoft is giving Copilot users access to GPT-4-Turbo for free
#48Is this the same as the Copilot that is in VSCode via the Extensions? It's possibly confusing, or just very simple. I'm not sure :-D
I believe Microsoft reused the Copilot brand that it acquired from GitHub for its AI assistant which is embedded in Windows, Bing, and apparently now Office. GitHub Copilot also still exists but is a different product.
Microsoft didn’t acquire Copilot from Github, Microsoft introduced it at Github long after Github was part of Microsoft.