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Study puts fermented foods, not fire, as pivotal moment in human brain growth

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Re: Study puts fermented foods, not fire, as pivotal moment in human brain growth

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The source can obviously biased. I became a vegetarian recently for ethical reasons and the critiques I receive around me center solely on health issues, with the occasional "we are humans, we eat meat!". These have absolutely no bearing on the ethics of vegetarianism or veganism. I understand people want solid arguments from different perspectives, but for me, they are useless.

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Re: Study puts fermented foods, not fire, as pivotal moment in human brain growth

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No, I mean enzyme drink. They are called differently all over the place. They are similar to kombucha, just without all that disgusting shroom in a jar thing.

Wait until you learn where the enzymes come from

No, kvass and other 'fizzy drinks' are not kombucha

They get their fermentation from the air, ferment much lower, and do not rely on the skoby to keep it all working. On some level there is similarities, but its not the same

Re: Study puts fermented foods, not fire, as pivotal moment in human brain growth

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post #118

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Yes, meat being the driver is the more common (and simpler) explanation for our smaller intestines and larger brains. I guess plantbasednews.org just accidentally left this alternative explanation out. That said, fermented foods could very well have played a part in it.

It could be both: Fermented meat from scavenging. Sounds gross but actually many cultures still have fermented meat products in their cuisine

>Sounds gross but actually many cultures still have fermented meat products

Aged steak - a famous Western delicacy - is partially rotten meat.

Re: Study puts fermented foods, not fire, as pivotal moment in human brain growth

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fermented foods/beverages are more acidic and therefore should aid with digestion. In ancient Mesopotamia they drank beer with most meals, what if that wasnt only because it was safer than water, but also aided you to digest the foods you did eat, faster?

Re: Study puts fermented foods, not fire, as pivotal moment in human brain growth

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post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, meat being the driver is the more common (and simpler) explanation for our smaller intestines and larger brains. I guess plantbasednews.org just accidentally left this alternative explanation out. That said, fermented foods could very well have played a part in it.

It could be both: Fermented meat from scavenging. Sounds gross but actually many cultures still have fermented meat products in their cuisine

It’s not outside the realms of possibility that the invention of fermented meats (which includes salami and other similar sausages) arose when humans decided to eat the intestines of hunted beasts, possibly well after they ate the more desirable portions.

Re: Study puts fermented foods, not fire, as pivotal moment in human brain growth

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post #118

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It could be both: Fermented meat from scavenging. Sounds gross but actually many cultures still have fermented meat products in their cuisine

>Sounds gross but actually many cultures still have fermented meat products Aged steak - a famous Western delicacy - is partially rotten meat.

Salami, chorizo, pepperoni.. are all fermented meats

Re: Study puts fermented foods, not fire, as pivotal moment in human brain growth

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I make fermented fizzy enzyme drinks at home all the time, no soft drinks anymore. It has to be all the time as it is a perpetual drink. You buy on of those fancy hipster live enzyme drinks, but you never finish it. Just and juice, sugar, jam - whatever what bacteria like and it continues fermentation. At room temperature. Every two days it is ready again, drink it, feed it. If it is too active, put it in a fridge. I…

>fizzy enzyme drinks Do you mean kombucha? Kefir?

One that's very easy to make is bread kvass : basically just toasted bread, sugar and some yeast, either sourdough starter or regular bread yeast. It kinda tastes like a weak wheat beer. I assume with some hops it would taste even more like beer.

Re: Study puts fermented foods, not fire, as pivotal moment in human brain growth

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, meat being the driver is the more common (and simpler) explanation for our smaller intestines and larger brains. I guess plantbasednews.org just accidentally left this alternative explanation out. That said, fermented foods could very well have played a part in it.

Actually the big evolutionary advantage of humans is that they can thrive on a wide range different diets. Unlike other animals we can almost eat everything.

There's large parts of the food world that are completely inaccessible to humans.

Most plant material (i.e. "fiber", digestible by e.g. cows), carion, most raw meat (if we ate what dogs ate, we'd have constant stomach issues...)

Re: Study puts fermented foods, not fire, as pivotal moment in human brain growth

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post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, meat being the driver is the more common (and simpler) explanation for our smaller intestines and larger brains. I guess plantbasednews.org just accidentally left this alternative explanation out. That said, fermented foods could very well have played a part in it.

It could be both: Fermented meat from scavenging. Sounds gross but actually many cultures still have fermented meat products in their cuisine

There is an interesting series of scenes in the book Shogun where the main character gets some meat and wants to prepare it in the traditional manner by curing it. He hangs the meat outside but people are so disgusted by the stench that they steal it and dispose of it before he can eat it.

Re: Study puts fermented foods, not fire, as pivotal moment in human brain growth

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From the "about us" page:

> Plant Based News is a mission-led impact media platform focused on elevating the plant-based diet and its benefit to human health, the planet, and animals.

And

> The world’s leading scientists agree that time is running out in the fight to stop the climate crisis. Shifting away from an animal-based food system is one of the most impactful ways we can slow global warming. It’s also a critical move in preventing future pandemics and bringing equity to our global food system.

I'll take it with a grain of vegan salt.

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