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Microsoft is giving Copilot users access to GPT-4-Turbo for free

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Re: Microsoft is giving Copilot users access to GPT-4-Turbo for free

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Get users hooked with free access. Wait few years. Start having lawyers tweak terms of service. Charge corporate customers a shit ton of money as free users sell their junk. Yank “free” tier, with none to minimal notice due to ToS. Cite limited resource constraint. Stick previously free users with $99/month access. MSFT stock pumps hard for the next few years.

The fact that MS is doing this could be a sign that most people just don't find much utility in these AI tools. Like you said, they're trying to get people hooked. But if AI isn't any useful to people in the first place, this goes nowhere and they're still stuck with a low/decreasing amount of users.

Or perhaps “chat” just isn’t the best use of LLMs. Autocomplete-based integrations, rather than chat, could be better. I know I love and get great utility from GitHub Copilot, but not really any online or offline LLM chatbot.

Also, from a UX perspective, I feel an autocomplete-based UI encourages me to make sure the thing “I’m saying” is actually what I mean to say - ie, to not implicitly trust LLM hallucinations.

LLM-based generative text everywhere, in every app, could be useful, very straightforwardly integrated at an OS level into all text controls, something MS is well-poised to do, and “Copilot” a very good brand for that. (And I would be shocked if Apple and Google aren’t working on the same.)

Re: Microsoft is giving Copilot users access to GPT-4-Turbo for free

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these commercial offerings are always going to have mystery meat attached to them. just either accept or reorient to selfhosting

hedge your bet and do both

I just don't think the stability of cloud air will allow a both thing. There's still going to be so muchbtailoring that youvhavr to pick a path

Re: Microsoft is giving Copilot users access to GPT-4-Turbo for free

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The fact that MS is doing this could be a sign that most people just don't find much utility in these AI tools. Like you said, they're trying to get people hooked. But if AI isn't any useful to people in the first place, this goes nowhere and they're still stuck with a low/decreasing amount of users.

Or perhaps “chat” just isn’t the best use of LLMs. Autocomplete-based integrations, rather than chat, could be better. I know I love and get great utility from GitHub Copilot, but not really any online or offline LLM chatbot. Also, from a UX perspective, I feel an autocomplete-based UI encourages me to make sure the thing “I’m saying” is actually what I mean to say - ie, to not implicitly trust LLM hallucinations. LL…

I use llms to write text for me sometimes simply to rewrite it myself because sometimes having something to criticise is better than having to create from scratch

Re: Microsoft is giving Copilot users access to GPT-4-Turbo for free

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Get users hooked with free access. Wait few years. Start having lawyers tweak terms of service. Charge corporate customers a shit ton of money as free users sell their junk. Yank “free” tier, with none to minimal notice due to ToS. Cite limited resource constraint. Stick previously free users with $99/month access. MSFT stock pumps hard for the next few years.

The idea is to introduce advertising into the responses—-subtly. Which will be extremely powerful.

Re: Microsoft is giving Copilot users access to GPT-4-Turbo for free

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I believe Microsoft reused the Copilot brand that it acquired from GitHub for its AI assistant which is embedded in Windows, Bing, and apparently now Office. GitHub Copilot also still exists but is a different product.

"Copilot" is fast becoming what "dot Net" was to their branding.

What a f$&cking headache that is.

Re: Microsoft is giving Copilot users access to GPT-4-Turbo for free

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I recommend mistral because you can use it for AI development while Anthropic explicitly forbids use to develop AI.

you get chatgpt-4-turbo, claude 3, and mistral large all through a kagi ultimate subscription but it's still in beta.

The better version of Claude 3?

Re: Microsoft is giving Copilot users access to GPT-4-Turbo for free

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post #19

Get users hooked with free access. Wait few years. Start having lawyers tweak terms of service. Charge corporate customers a shit ton of money as free users sell their junk. Yank “free” tier, with none to minimal notice due to ToS. Cite limited resource constraint. Stick previously free users with $99/month access. MSFT stock pumps hard for the next few years.

In a few years competitors to gpt-4-turbo will exist so this sounds like a rather foolish plan.

Re: Microsoft is giving Copilot users access to GPT-4-Turbo for free

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There is also a Copilot app that you can use from your phone.

The one named bing ? Or is there another one Edit how lazy is the question, found the stand alone app

Haha, it’s a standalone, I was too lazy to attach links, but for the next person stumbling over this:

iOS: https://apps.apple.com/se/app/microsoft-copilot/id6472538445... Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft....

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