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Instinctive Sleeping and Resting Postures (2000)

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Re: Instinctive Sleeping and Resting Postures (2000)

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Post by wizzwizz4 »

itronitron wrote: post #70

The text referencing Figure 2 seems to mistakenly swap the top and bottom images. When the legs are in the reverse recovery position (fig (fig2,2, bottom), the penis lies on the lower thigh and is protected. In this position the Achilles tendon of the leading foot can be inserted in the gap between the big toe and the first lesser toe to help correct a bunion. Note that the top picture in Figure 2 shows the Achilles…

Figure 1 also has the images the wrong way around, though it's harder to see because they're meant to be side-by-side. I think it's a problem with the HTML conversion.

Re: Instinctive Sleeping and Resting Postures (2000)

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Post by malfist »

btbuildem wrote: post #85

The Tibetan caraveneers sleeping on their shins is metal af. As a bonus, in that position, the penis is protected from instects. Did that little observation, erm, stand out to anyone else?

Penis and insects are mentioned in quite a few places in the study. Author seems very preoccupied with that.

Re: Instinctive Sleeping and Resting Postures (2000)

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Post by bee_rider »

IMO it would be better for the government to keep this sort of general library content on a url that doesn’t contain NIH. They have the disclaimer,

> As a library, NLM provides access to scientific literature. Inclusion in an NLM database does not imply endorsement of, or agreement with, the contents by NLM or the National Institutes of Health.

Anyway, it seems like an interesting collection of anecdotes that would be a good place to start searching. I don’t see as much value in some of his speculations. The bit about dogs not getting asthma seems a little out of scope.

Actually, do dogs get asthma? Quick googling seems to provide contradictory answers, with the general trend that apparently cats get it more often, and apparently dogs get some sort of allergic reaction thing that is technically not asthma, but is very similar?

Re: Instinctive Sleeping and Resting Postures (2000)

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Post by malfist »

ErigmolCt wrote: post #92
kijin wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A pillow doesn't need to be a factory-made product that you buy at a store. Plenty of humans make pillows out of natural objects when sleeping outdoors. I can totally imagine a mountain gorilla using a chunk of wood, or even a body part of another gorilla, as a "pillow" if it makes them feel more comfortable.

In order to protect skin on your face from acne or wrinkles I think it preferable to sleep on a pillow

I don't think gorillas are too worried about acne or wrinkles.

Re: Instinctive Sleeping and Resting Postures (2000)

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Post by orthoxerox »

btbuildem wrote: post #85

The Tibetan caraveneers sleeping on their shins is metal af. As a bonus, in that position, the penis is protected from instects. Did that little observation, erm, stand out to anyone else?

You never think about ants crawling up your urethra until one of them tries.

Re: Instinctive Sleeping and Resting Postures (2000)

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Post by RamblingCTO »

chillingeffect wrote: post #75
RamblingCTO wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't think it's fair to outright dismiss it because it is not a systematic/empirical study That's how science works. Show sources/data/experiments or gtfo

Experiments are the part people fixate on. Science begins with observation.

Yes. But just publishing your observations is not enough. And this seems to be a published paper, which I find very weird.

Re: Instinctive Sleeping and Resting Postures (2000)

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Post by kqr »

chaorace wrote: post #95
kqr wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Life expectancy of 53 does not usually mean nobody makes it to 60. In the early 1900s[1], life expectancy at birth in England was 53, but at the same time, as long as you survived until you were 20, your life expectancy had increased to over 60. If you lived to 50, you could expect to become 70. https://ourworldindata.org/images/published/Life-expectancy-... ---- [1]: Not counting the years of the Spanish flu!

Life expectancy is such a consistently deceptive measurement that I often wonder why it's not been replaced. Surely there must be more useful ways of quantifying lifespans, something like a "median age of currently living people"?

Point estimates in general are deceptive. It's difficult to capture the nuance of a full distribution with a single number.

I've had some luck with upper and lower percentiles, e.g. 5 % and 95 %. These cover 9 out of 10 people, which is large enough to be meaningful, yet not so small it's difficult to estimate.

Re: Instinctive Sleeping and Resting Postures (2000)

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Post by sameoldtune »

dsalzman wrote: post #69

The interesting point of this article to me is not the positions but the sleeping surface. Due to my newborn I’ve been sleeping on the floor on a thin yoga mat for over three months and my back and joints feel great. The pressure from the hard ground is like stretching while you sleep. Took a few weeks to get used to it though.

I have a Japanese futon mat[1] under my bed that I roll out if I have muscle soreness. If it weren’t for my partner (who insists on sleeping in a bed) I would sleep on the floor 100% of the time. After getting used to floor sleeping I can never feel truly relaxed in a bed-I feel like the padding is putting pressure on my lumbar spine.

[1] https://www.futonbedsfromjapan.com/

Re: Instinctive Sleeping and Resting Postures (2000)

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Post by anonu »

delichon wrote: post #41

I bought a very strange mattress six months ago. This isn't an advertisement -- I can't strongly recommend it -- but it's called SONU Sleep. It has a "channel" along the top that you can lower your arm into when sleeping on the side. I got it due to persistent shoulder pain from side sleeping. Gradually I've adjusted to it and am now sleeping better. But that's an argument against my usual paleo heuristic: this sure…

If you're sleeping better, why cant you "strongly recommend" it?
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