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Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by SillyUsername »

For a lot of use cases except hardware dev, a VM is sufficient.

Arguably you could (can already) run MacOS via VM on generic hardware, the same way retro systems are (which could be partly in hardware, e.g. FPGA performing functions). This would only be bad from a performance perspective, from a maintenance perspective it may make life a lot easier as you've moved a hardware compatibility problem into software.

You're no longer having to add compatibility workarounds for hundreds of pieces of hardware, just target one VM.

If you really needed the performance you'd then have 3 options that I see, pay for a real Mac, pay for a machine with x2 the performance of a real Mac (which limits you to mid range machines at the moment), or spin up extra VMs as required on hardware you have lying around that previously you couldn't use.

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by sgarland »

resource_waste wrote: post #462
throwaway2037 wrote: post #437

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not surprising that you posted this flame bait from a throwaway account. What is wrong with Debian?

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It is _stable_, not outdated. You are practically guaranteed that if you’re running Debian Stable, and live only within the official apt ecosystem, you will not have software-based instability.

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by afavour »

soraminazuki wrote: post #459
afavour wrote: post #319

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> On my work computer my programs randomly rearrange themselves after lunch, windows always has trouble switching between my audio devices, random slowdowns > I rarely have issues on Linux anymore, mostly because of something is broken on Linux, I can fix it. Perhaps your Windows knowledge is not up to the level of your Linux knowledge? It might be that a Windows expert could fix every issue you’ve listed and more.

> It might be that a Windows expert could fix every issue you’ve listed and more. So in other words, it doesn't "just work."

Wasn’t that Apple’s tagline?

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by marcosdumay »

MenhirMike wrote: post #172
marcosdumay wrote: post #163

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> when it actually still actually searched in files rather than an incomplete index I don't even care about in files. I just want a file named foo.txt to appear when I search for "foo" on the directory containing it. Windows 10 is completely unable to run that search.

Yes! and even if you search for foo.txt, it will also display foo_something.txt even though you didn't search for a wildcard (foo*.txt). And then you have that "fantastic" UI that helpfully tells you that the file is in "C:\Users\something\Documents\..." regardless how large you make the window. Who's brilliant decision was it to truncate the locating folder without any way to resize the column and actually see the f…

Sorry for the almost meme-like content but... Are you getting results?

My Windows simply doesn't find any of those.

Since it's a VM, I gave up long ago and search its contents from Linux.

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by smoldesu »

phatskat wrote: post #436
steve1977 wrote: post #408

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> CoreAudio actually "just works" out of the box If Apple is not messing up their USB subsystem like they did with Ventura, where people basically had to wait a whole major release until they got stable performance again with Sonoma. Or if they don’t break iLok copy protection, like they just did with 14.4 And for professional hardware, you don’t have to install “all kinds of alternative drivers”. You just install th…

Having used all three major OS’s for music at different times, MacOS is still my go-to. There just isn’t the futzing I had to do on windows. Linux was actually a contender for me back in the day - I feel like MIDI routing on Linux is just easier[1] although older OSX touting was also very good imo. I kept my G4 tower going for a looooong time because I had just the right setup of tools and hacks to do everything I ne…

Live works fine through Wine, nowadays. If I'm not mistaken, the Ableton installer works fine too - you just download the Windows copy and it installs it like-native. Very odd stuff, but it works fine from what I remember (I use Bitwig now).

CoreAudio was definitely the better choice when Linux only had JACK, ALSA and PulseAudio, but now that PipeWire exists it's very close to a CoreAudio-esque experience. You can record out of other apps, route processed audio into a voice chat, or manage the world's largest DAC without issue.

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by Adverblessly »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #317
fsflover wrote: post #228

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> unless all you do is use a browser and listen to Spotify So what exactly isn't working?

These have been pain points for me. Not saying they're impossible to solve on Linux, but it's nontrivial especially compared to Windows Change trackpad scrolling speed Set up suspend-then-hibernate GPU drivers (I have a box with an AMD APU and no idea how to actually utilize it) Many games (Proton is amazing and a huge leap forward, but om average it's still more work than gaming on Windows. eg fiddling with differen…

> Change trackpad scrolling speed

If you're on X11, I think you'll have to use xinput to set it manually.

If your on Wayland, in KDE at least this is available in the standard settings application.

> Set up suspend-then-hibernate

On KDE at least that's just one of the options in the power settings ("When sleeping, enter:" has "Standby", "Hybrid Sleep" and "Standby, then hibernate").

> GPU drivers (I have a box with an AMD APU and no idea how to actually utilize it)

Worked OOTB for me, do you have amdgpu drivers installed? What exactly isn't working?

> Many games (Proton is amazing and a huge leap forward, but om average it's still more work than gaming on Windows. eg fiddling with different versions of Proton or finding out that a game's anti cheat will ban you for using Linux)

I find that Proton mostly just works for me, but indeed EAC is a problem that I don't know how to solve (and also don't really care about since I'm not into playing public multiplayer games).

> Higher res video streaming (I think this is usually a DRM issue?)

You should check if HW Acceleration is enabled in your browser, but IIUC Netflix will indeed refuse to provide higher quality streams to Linux (and also Windows depending on your browser), you might be able to resolve it by googling a bit, maybe using a browser with DRM support and switching out your user-agent?

> I'm hoping that someone will tell me I'm wrong and that Gnome actually has an easy way to set the trackpad scroll speed

Gnome is notorious for removing user choices, so I wouldn't be surprised if this was impossible on Gnome/Wayland. Xinput might work on Gnome/X11. Switching to KDE should work on Wayland ;)

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by al_borland »

rpdillon wrote: post #169
bruce511 wrote: post #13

Back in my youth, when I was time rich and cash poor, this kind of tinkering was fun and a good way to improve the machine I was using. Now that I have more disposable cash, but waaay less time, I couldn't imagine "wasting my time" doing this sort of thing. These days I want to -use- the computer, not spend time trying to convince it to work. Incidentally it's the exact same journey with my cars. 35 years ago I was f…

People have been making this argument to me about Linux for more than 25 years. The most cutting version that I ran across was: > Linux is only free if your time is worthless! Something never quite sat right with me about this argument, and your comment finally made me understand what it is: the understanding you gain from tinkering is priceless, and it's exactly the experience that you use to help everyone around yo…

This argument makes a lot of sense. I get more upset than I probably should about car issues, likely because I never spent the time to tinker with them, so I feel rather helpless… and I don’t like feeling helpless.

In my youth I did a lot of tinkering with computers and it has paid dividends. It gave me a career.

These days though, I want to be able to tinker on my own schedule. I want my primary computer, phone, and car to “just work”. That means any low level tinkering needs a second thing. That can work fine for computers, because they’re small and relatively cheap. The idea of having a project car isn’t something I ever see myself doing, as it’s big and expensive.

I can still tinker on some things with my primary computer without it being a problem. Tinkering on writing software, running servers, or whatever, isn’t going to kill my ability to do other things on the computer. A lot of tinkering can be done without tinkering with the OS itself.

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by cesarb »

pjmlp wrote: post #463
viraptor wrote: post #453

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I'm working on packaging things for Darwin platform. And helping people deal with homebrew/compilation issues. I'm painfully aware how much is developed by people with no access to or interest in MacOS. And unless something targets windows explicitly (not wsl), you can basically expect issues going in. In a twisted way, I'm one of the enablers of the current situation where things are usable on a mac. Sometimes you c…

Nothing to do with Linux, and everything to do with case sensite filesystems common on UNIX. macOS uses case insensitive filesystem by default for backwards compatibility with HFS+. You can turn case sensitive on HFS+ and APFS if so desired for the "Linux" experience, via Disk Utility or the equivalent CLI tool. And if looking to have some fun on an ecosystem that doesn't expect it, you can equally turn it on on NTFS…

> > I'm painfully aware how much is developed by people with no access to or interest in MacOS. [...] Sometimes you can tell by the simple fact that the git repo contains files in one directory that conflict in naming. Linux has no issues with "Foo" and "foo" coexisting.

> Nothing to do with Linux, and everything to do with case sensite filesystems common on UNIX.

Of the three major desktop operating systems (Microsoft Windows, Apple macOS, and the Linux family), only Linux has case sensitive filesystems by default. Therefore, it's likely that someone who didn't care about filename case conflicts was running Linux.

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by josteink »

mattl wrote: post #455
josteink wrote: post #423

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If you use UEFI, all you need is to copy the files from the ISO over to the USB stick. Am I missing something? (And the same applies to UEFI capable Linux-distros)

Windows installer images have some files too large for most tools to understand and also I believe the USB stick needs to be exFAT formatted too. Virtually any tool for making a USB stick would fail in various ways on macOS.

> Windows installer images have some files too large … I believe the USB stick needs to be exFAT formatted

That’s true. I forgot!

While it’s not part of the UEFI spec many (most?) consumer BIOSes will be able to UEFI boot from NTFS as well, so formatting as that might also be an option.

Both that and exfat should be easy to do on Linux. No idea about MacOS.

Which brings me to

> too large for most tools to understand

This I don’t understand. What tools? What tools do you need beside “cp”?

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