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And all that pressure was for naught because it's still available right on the clearweb :'(
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Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown
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They don’t only offer DDoS protection, but also a WAF (Web Application Firewall), and if you run commodity software, attacks are very common. I know this because I manage a WordPress site fronted by a different WAF, and I can see in the logs that malicious bots are trying to pwn the site basically 24/7. (and before you say ‘patches’ – yes, but defense in depth is a thing, and you don’t always have the luxury of vendo…
Yes, Wordpress is attacked incessantly. It's designed to be actively hostile to security, so yes, a firewall that helps ameliorate is a good thing. However, if you really care about Wordpress security, a WAF is just covering things up, and yes, you need to patch (but that's not really the fix). The proper fix is to reconfigure things to not follow Wordpress' absolutely ridiculous security. While patching depends on v…
WP core isn’t bad, the problem is when you’re the ops guy and you get handed an installation with 30 plugins.
Anyway, WP was just an example. Are you 100% certain that all your software is 100% on the ball when it comes to modern security practices? We all know that not everyone takes security seriously.
> Every time they have issues, huge parts of the Internet are affected. If I wanted a WAF, I'd get it from elsewhere.
Which ‘elsewhere’ would you suggest? Every time AWS, Azure or GCP have issues, the internet is affected too.
Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown
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I don't remember this. I started using TK domains as a kid in 2017 and you set your own nameserver records and they didn't serve ads.
When I used .tk briefly in 98-99 it was using iframes and they injected ads and/or opened pop-ups IIRC.
Not even iframes, by my memory it was regular frames (rip).
One frame at the top with a banner ad and then your site below it.
Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown
#184Thank god, .tk caused so many headaches for us, truly a cesspit of a tld. The rate of fraud and abuse on our platform was staggeringly high from it, it was close 99%.
Interesting, .xyz was by far higher on my list of disreputable spam domains.
I'd be happy with that one shut down too.
Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown
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I'm reasonably sure cloudflare would comply with any subpoenas / warrants sent their way.
Which is a catch-22, because subpoenas / warrants for collection of digital information have to name a specific intended target (a real legal identity under suspicion, not some pseudonym) — and "the real legal identity of the suspect" is exactly the thing that Cloudflare's proxy-shielding prevents you from learning. Courts won't act until they have some specific individual to act toward . (This is also why, whenever…
Or you don't hear about the methods they are using for deanonymizing because they would get the cases thrown out of a court. Warrantless wiretapping and the like... And the private firm is just lying for them so law enforcement can do parallel construction.
Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown
#186Thank god, .tk caused so many headaches for us, truly a cesspit of a tld. The rate of fraud and abuse on our platform was staggeringly high from it, it was close 99%.
If .tk was such a clear signal for abuse, isn't it a bad thing that signal no longer exists? I'd rather ICANN finally introduce .free, give a few years to alert everyone, and those developing spam filters can treat it how they want.
> If .tk was such a clear signal for abuse, isn't it a bad thing that signal no longer exists?
No, this is (obviously) contrarianism for contrarianisms sake.
It's good when entities facilitating crime stop facilitating it. No debate necessary.
Additionally, it's completely unclear what you mean by your proposal.
Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown
#187Thank god, .tk caused so many headaches for us, truly a cesspit of a tld. The rate of fraud and abuse on our platform was staggeringly high from it, it was close 99%.
It would follow that Cloudflare is tacitly admitting they have been / are hosting a large number of domains used for fraud and abuse. That surprises me, given the time and effort they spend mitigating fraud and abuse. Anyone care to explain what I'm missing?
Cloudflare's market play has consistently reminded me of Facebook to Google's from the perspective of Googlers I know who moved to Facebook in early 2010s.
Let's do Akamai, but cheaper. Trying to stop everything bad is impossible anyway.
Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown
#188The people complaining that Cloudflare hosts these criminals would be the first ones complaining that Cloudflare has too much power when taking down websites it doesn’t like. You can’t win with these people, I personally think this is the best outcome and shows our systems work (albeit slowly). Sure it took a while, but now there doesn’t have to be a precedent of Cloudflare acting as the internet police more than it…
There is no contraposition. In both cases, big company simply does something it wants.
This comparison actually highlights that there is no “system”, because some (imaginary) impersonal entity decides that those bad actors are allowed, and those bad actors are not allowed. Some public sensibilities are given as a reason, but no one is actually asking anyone's opinion on anything. Still, there are people who believe that Santa Claus brings presents for free, and that the whole thing is not governed by typical hypocrisy and typical politics behind closed doors. The thing is, you've built a turnpike, you can now bargain with people interested in sharing control over that turnpike.
Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown
#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
If .tk was such a clear signal for abuse, isn't it a bad thing that signal no longer exists? I'd rather ICANN finally introduce .free, give a few years to alert everyone, and those developing spam filters can treat it how they want.
> If .tk was such a clear signal for abuse, isn't it a bad thing that signal no longer exists? No, this is (obviously) contrarianism for contrarianisms sake. It's good when entities facilitating crime stop facilitating it. No debate necessary. Additionally, it's completely unclear what you mean by your proposal.
Spam and scams will happen no matter what. It will just be spread across the cheapest domain registrations that are still available now. The narrow and self-serving aspect that Facebook investigated, cybersquatting, should not justify killing off legitimate free domain registrations forever, at least in a better world where we more directly tackle these problems.
Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown
#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If .tk was such a clear signal for abuse, isn't it a bad thing that signal no longer exists? No, this is (obviously) contrarianism for contrarianisms sake. It's good when entities facilitating crime stop facilitating it. No debate necessary. Additionally, it's completely unclear what you mean by your proposal.
Spam and scams will happen no matter what. It will just be spread across the cheapest domain registrations that are still available now. The narrow and self-serving aspect that Facebook investigated, cybersquatting, should not justify killing off legitimate free domain registrations forever, at least in a better world where we more directly tackle these problems.
Nobody cut off "legitimate free domain registrations" forever.
Airquotes aren't sarcastic, just, idk exactly what that combination of words means so I want to leave myself an out.
You are free to hand out domains for free to strangers, if you so desire.
Nobody stopped anyone from anything.