Tangentially, Cloudflare REALLY needs to start supporting transferring .moe domains already.
Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown
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Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown
#92Unrelated to the article but seeing .tk brings back many memories. As a kid without a bank account let's alone an international credit card (VISA/Mastercard), dot.tk is the only way to put a website online with your name. I created countless of websites with .tk for classmates, school and families.
In italy we had 3000.it https://web.archive.org/web/20010331143129/http://www.kliman... SPOILER: I didn’t become a webdesigner
"Copyright © by klimato ® All Right Reserved"
Heh. I remember thinking '©' and '®' being cool letters. I put it on every page since it looked pro. I guess you didn't actually register the "brand"?
Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown
#93Thank god, .tk caused so many headaches for us, truly a cesspit of a tld. The rate of fraud and abuse on our platform was staggeringly high from it, it was close 99%.
It would follow that Cloudflare is tacitly admitting they have been / are hosting a large number of domains used for fraud and abuse. That surprises me, given the time and effort they spend mitigating fraud and abuse. Anyone care to explain what I'm missing?
They don't host the domain. Hosting happens somewhere else.
Which is where the crackdown should happen.
Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown
#94The people complaining that Cloudflare hosts these criminals would be the first ones complaining that Cloudflare has too much power when taking down websites it doesn’t like. You can’t win with these people, I personally think this is the best outcome and shows our systems work (albeit slowly). Sure it took a while, but now there doesn’t have to be a precedent of Cloudflare acting as the internet police more than it…
This seems like such a weird problem to me. If they're criminals, just send the cops? If you can't send the cops, then they aren't criminals? How do you end up in this limbo where you need critical infrastructure to play judge?
Cloudflare shields criminals from cops. They do so because of "free speech" or whatever. There was recently a story about a swatting victim, who tried to get the forum the swatters use to shut down. Cloud flare refused to give the identity of the criminals, the case even went to court and the victim lost and now apparently has to pay court costs.
Our legal system is unfortunately not perfect, which is why it matters what infrastructure providers do.
Do they enable criminals by shielding them from the police? Or do they have policies in place that prevent abuse of their service?
With Cloudflare, I'm pretty sure they lean towards the former.
Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
This seems like such a weird problem to me. If they're criminals, just send the cops? If you can't send the cops, then they aren't criminals? How do you end up in this limbo where you need critical infrastructure to play judge?
Cloudflare shields criminals from cops. They do so because of "free speech" or whatever. There was recently a story about a swatting victim, who tried to get the forum the swatters use to shut down. Cloud flare refused to give the identity of the criminals, the case even went to court and the victim lost and now apparently has to pay court costs. Our legal system is unfortunately not perfect, which is why it matters…
I'm reasonably sure cloudflare would comply with any subpoenas / warrants sent their way.
Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same here. .tk was the only one back then that allowed you to have your own domain name without subdomains. My memory is that: 1. freeserver.com/~userna 2. username.freeserver.com 3. username.fs.com 4. username.tk Then we grew up a bit and started paying domains :')
The problem with .tk was that it would inject ads into your content. And the whole TLD was filled with low quality spam and hacks. I never liked it. $7/yr for a domain was one of the very first internet purchases I made. Then that set me down a path of finding free dynamic DNS services. For a short time my website and Invision forum were only online when I was, but I felt like I'd beaten the advertisers.
I don't remember this. I started using TK domains as a kid in 2017 and you set your own nameserver records and they didn't serve ads.
Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown
#97Unrelated to the article but seeing .tk brings back many memories. As a kid without a bank account let's alone an international credit card (VISA/Mastercard), dot.tk is the only way to put a website online with your name. I created countless of websites with .tk for classmates, school and families.
Same here. .tk was the only one back then that allowed you to have your own domain name without subdomains. My memory is that: 1. freeserver.com/~userna 2. username.freeserver.com 3. username.fs.com 4. username.tk Then we grew up a bit and started paying domains :')
My site davinder.8m.net is still up after 22 years. Only 2 years ago I managed to find its password.
Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same here. .tk was the only one back then that allowed you to have your own domain name without subdomains. My memory is that: 1. freeserver.com/~userna 2. username.freeserver.com 3. username.fs.com 4. username.tk Then we grew up a bit and started paying domains :')
Im trying to remember I think it was 8m.com or something like that? Which also let you have stuff like username.8m.com its probably gone now. I also miss tripod, not sure if its still around how it used to be. Angelfire comes to mind too.
Those sites are still up, the control panel is at freeservers.com my Site davinder.8m.net is still up after 22 years. I chose .net because it was cooler than .com :)
Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem with .tk was that it would inject ads into your content. And the whole TLD was filled with low quality spam and hacks. I never liked it. $7/yr for a domain was one of the very first internet purchases I made. Then that set me down a path of finding free dynamic DNS services. For a short time my website and Invision forum were only online when I was, but I felt like I'd beaten the advertisers.
I don't remember this. I started using TK domains as a kid in 2017 and you set your own nameserver records and they didn't serve ads.
When I used .tk briefly in 98-99 it was using iframes and they injected ads and/or opened pop-ups IIRC.
Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown
#100Another prominent .tk domain is for the Tcl programming language (tcl.tk) and I just checked, that is one of the paid .tk domains that are still up.
The TCL maintainers switched their main URL to tcl-lang.org a while back because Freenom was so unreliable, although they've continued to serve tcl.tk as well with crossed fingers.
I really hope Tokelau chooses a reputable registrar going forward, and .tk becomes usable for serious people.