Planes always sucked of course but corporate wetwork squads take it over the line, I think
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'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death
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Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death
#472Whenever people say about someone “they would never kill themselves” it reminds me of a deeply disturbing depression episode I had, thankfully only once, that lasted about 8 hours. It was the blackest morass of misery, I couldn’t bear to be in my own skin. After experiencing that I came to understand how people can do it, and the sudden onset also made me understand how inexplicable it can be.
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Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death
#473I feel like when there is financial malfeasance, we find enough cases of it in the wild to document that it has really happened. Whether it's Enron, or stories of lobbyists and politicians acting in self interest in ways that break the law, or even just municipal officials embezzling, we have known cases of that. So if you ever have the feeling that big financial transactions might be ethically questionable, you can…
Dr Kelly still v suspicious https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2013/jul/16/david-kelly...
Deeply suspicious
Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death
#474Earlier quoted context omitted.
On one side I agree with you, on the other, such statements are far from conclusive proof of anything. Let's make a small mental exercise: - you end up being a whistleblower against your company - every of your former friends hates you, your family isn't super supportive either for what you caused to the rest of the family (in reputation, attention, possibly financially) - you decide to end it - you leave such statem…
> every of your former friends hates you Ah yes, people hate it when people call out corruption that results in the planes they fly to kill people! >your family isn't super supportive either for what you caused to the rest of the family (in reputation, attention, possibly financially) Again, I agree their neighbors and friends must have been super pissed when he called out Boeing for building dangerous planes that ca…
Maybe hate is the wrong word, but people become tired, anxious, flee, in greater numbers than take a stand and give support.
Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death
#475Might be a good idea to make these kinds of statements in a more public manner on the socials. @ing the company your commenting against as well as any local police, FBI, or other pertinent TLAs. Let the opposition know they are no longer operating in the shadows. Of course the TLAs won't actively do anything about it proactively, but maybe it'll give more credence than the grieving friend's say-so later??? Have it in…
TLA = three letter agency?
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Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death
#476Earlier quoted context omitted.
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You've unfortunately been breaking the site guidelines a lot lately - not only in this comment but others such as https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39719417 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39681453 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39681364 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39616844 If this keeps up, we're going to have to ban you. I appreciate your good comments, but they don't make it ok to break the…
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Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death
#477Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is it self-evident? I agree that evidence of a murder is not conclusive but evidence of a suicide is virtually nonexistent. What facts in this case are consistent with suicide but not with murder?
> evidence of a suicide is virtually nonexistent 1. Epstein was found hanged in his cell 2. Video footage from the communal area an assassin would have to use for entrance/egress was analyzed by the FBI and showed nobody entering his block 3. There is video footage of his first suicide attempt on July 23rd, a few weeks before he was found hanging in his cell[^1] 4. An investigation by the FBI, and an autopsy performe…
1. Not inconsistent with murder
2. Source? Was this footage ever published? It also doesn't rule out someone inside the prison killing him which is much easier to arrange.
3. The article you linked doesn't confirm the video exists. It says that some officials said it existed but then it wasn't found when searched for. And in any case first suicide attempt is not inconsistent with murder.
4. Current and past New York City's Chief Medical Examiners were both present during the autopsy and strongly disagree over the results.
> Now you go. Tell me what evidence you have of murder. Address all of my points. Read the DOJ report.
Read my original message again. I'm not saying there is a solid evidence of murder. I'm saying there's no solid evidence of suicide that would rule out murder, so you can't say that "suicide is self-evident".
Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death
#478Earlier quoted context omitted.
All joking aside, was there anything in the Epstein case to indicate foul play or is it just a meme? I can't find anything reputable.
> is there anything in the Epstein case to indicate foul play We have no evidence. It is more that Epstein knew a lot of bad things about some of the most powerful people in the country. It makes sense that they would have wanted him killed, or even that they would have wanted to fake his death to make the court case go away. People who would kill to save themselves would be just as likely to kill a drifter and give…
I have read about local SMB offing one person. That billionaires would do it would be even less surprising.
Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death
#479Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Russia’s state killings are vast, millions? If you go far enough back in time, sure. Then again, if you go far enough back in time (not that long, truth be told), the US committed genocide against the Native Americans.
> If you go far enough back in time, sure It’s within living memory. However we have gone off track, as the other responses show. If happening at all, political killings are not occurring in the US at anything like the rate that they occur in Russia.
>If happening at all
This post exists because they are.
Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death
#480Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps the death of Jeffrey Epstein shows that this sort of thing does happen in the West. I know the case is not of the same kind, but the perpetrator was very likely a corporate type trying to protect their reputation, which is at least close.
All joking aside, was there anything in the Epstein case to indicate foul play or is it just a meme? I can't find anything reputable.
Some stuff
>Baden issued a report stating that Epstein's neck injuries were much more consistent with "homicidal strangulation" than suicide
>Baden also said that the wound was much thinner than the strip of bedsheet, and although there was blood on Epstein's neck, it was absent on the bed-sheet ligature.
from the wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Jeffrey_Epstein
which has photos of his neck and it does look he was strangled by something very much narrower than the bed sheets. I'm reminded a bit of the movie The Act of Killing where one of the former government guys explained how they killed hundreds of people by strangulation with a wire. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Act_of_Killing)
I'd say on balance of probability Epstein was murdered but the Boeing guy is quite likely a suicide. Maybe he made the statements about if he dies it's not suicide as a way of getting at Boeing?