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'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by georgespencer »

ImHereToVote wrote: post #143
ummonk wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the cameras just happened to be out of order when he chose to kill himself of course.

It's easy when your world view hinges on the fact that responsible adults are running the world.

> It's easy when your world view hinges on the fact that responsible adults are running the world.

Or when you look at the reams of evidence supporting a verdict of suicide and the other side has conspiratorial non-arguments like this.

If any of you get selected for jury duty I would encourage you to please show an adult this thread so you can be recused on grounds of mental incapacity.

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Post by brabel »

glenstein wrote: post #395

I feel like when there is financial malfeasance, we find enough cases of it in the wild to document that it has really happened. Whether it's Enron, or stories of lobbyists and politicians acting in self interest in ways that break the law, or even just municipal officials embezzling, we have known cases of that. So if you ever have the feeling that big financial transactions might be ethically questionable, you can…

Perhaps the death of Jeffrey Epstein shows that this sort of thing does happen in the West. I know the case is not of the same kind, but the perpetrator was very likely a corporate type trying to protect their reputation, which is at least close.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by georgespencer »

Supermancho wrote: post #323
rcxdude wrote: post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a tiny minority, alas. It's pretty popular theory (doesn't make it any more correct, of course).

I don't know anyone who doesn't believe he was killed. It's a narrative of the popular culture. eg Clinton's bj in the whitehouse or Xi Ping disappearing people or any organization that does an internal audit to find no wrongdoing.

> It's a narrative of the popular culture

Amongst idiots.

> eg Clinton's bj in the whitehouse

A thing which happened, was admitted by Clinton, and proved by DNA evidence.

Epstein's suicide is different because the evidence overwhelmingly points to suicide, and people are either ignorant or unable to think logically.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by JackFr »

burnished wrote: post #391

Feels kind of gross to include the nieces observation that he had been stressed as some kind of counterpoint to the statement in the title.

Why? A completely unvetted “family friend” who won’t even give a last name provides a salacious quote that’s completely unverifiable. A niece, known to be related and with a name and address offers a counterpoint. It’s ok to be skeptical.

Things like: What did the note say? Where did the gun come from? Is there any CCTV video from the hotel and garage? still need to be investigated by the police.

It is possible that he was stressed, depressed, and expected to have his reputation (and life) destroyed by scorched earth lawyers for Boeing.

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Post by throwaway1492 »

Whenever people say about someone “they would never kill themselves” it reminds me of a deeply disturbing depression episode I had, thankfully only once, that lasted about 8 hours. It was the blackest morass of misery, I couldn’t bear to be in my own skin. After experiencing that I came to understand how people can do it, and the sudden onset also made me understand how inexplicable it can be.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by IncreasePosts »

usednet wrote: post #347
IncreasePosts wrote: post #217

These statements would only be meaningful if suicidal people couldn't say them. No one ever seems to invest in a security system, or a gun, when they make these statements. Why?

Will a gun protect you when your car accelerates to 150 mph directly into a tree? A couple micrograms of toxin being sprinkled into your coffee? The CIA had a heart attack gun 50 years ago. Not difficult to imagine the capabilities they have today.

Nope, but it would probably help in the instance here, where I guess according to you, Boeing assassins broke into his home, and forced him to commit suicide with a gun(or, killed him with their own gun and staged it perfectly to look like a suicide).
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