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'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by d--b »

Ok there are conspiracy theories, making claims about things that are unlikely. And then there is the key witness that dies in a parking lot by gunshot wound the day before he is to testify on the case he spent decades building. And then there is his friends who swears that he wouldn’t commit suicide.

Call me crazy all you want, but murder is the most probable theory here.

The money interests are massive. People kill for tens of thousands of dollars. We’re talking millions of dollars here.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by chii »

blackhawkC17 wrote: post #55
windowshopping wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did say "appears," but this is some Epstein levels of "coincidence." I'm not really a conspiracy-theory type, but I mean c'mon. Does anyone believe that Epstein killed himself? Makes me think of this little stand-up comedy snippet. https://www.reddit.com/r/StandUpComedy/comments/14rcr7n/cons... "I understand not believing in most conspiracy theories, but NONE? You really think the government's batting 100? They ain…

> Does anyone believe that Epstein killed himself? Yes, I believe that Epstein was a coward who took the easy way out rather than face repercussions. If it was a grand conspiracy, why is Ghislaine Maxwell (Epstein’s partner-in-crime) still alive in prison?

> Ghislaine

may be she just knew less incriminating shit. Could also be that one death as an example, to keep her in line from saying anything too incriminating (against somebody who's capable of orchestrating a prison "suicide").

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by avereveard »

jack_riminton wrote: post #47

If he suspected he was going to be knocked off I wouldn't be surprised if he had recorded or wrote down somewhere all the damming evidence he had

if he suspected he was a target why didn't he buy some home surveillance equipement

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by georgespencer »

tsimionescu wrote: post #40
gruez wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>First case in my lifetime where a US corporation appears to have murdered someone for political reasons Is there anything supporting this theory other than the fact the death benefits Boeing?

The article we're commenting on, where a friend attests he was told explicitly that any "suicide" is fowl play. Sure, it's nowhere near "beyond a reasonable doubt", but it's plenty, together with the obvious motive, to form an opinion.

> fowl play

It's "foul" play.

> Sure, it's nowhere near "beyond a reasonable doubt"

To the extent that I do not think it would even be admissible in court in many (all?) states. Hearsay, not under oath, not cross-examinable. Just as possible she misunderstood the dark joke of an obviously suicidal and self-reflective man as people like you and me at Boeing literally arranged to have someone killed lmao.

I can basically only think of more plausible explanations: coincidental victim of murder, suicidal due to stress of whistle-blowing, witness misheard, witness misunderstood, witness made it up…

I can really hear the bottom of the barrel being scraped around here lately.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by carabiner »

gruez wrote: post #37
windowshopping wrote: post #29

This is kind of mind-blowing to me. First case in my lifetime where a US corporation appears to have murdered someone for political reasons. Has this happened before? I assume it has but it's very rare.

>First case in my lifetime where a US corporation appears to have murdered someone for political reasons Is there anything supporting this theory other than the fact the death benefits Boeing?

It doesn't benefit Boeing because of all of this brainless conspiracy thinking, and his allegations over the past 5 years had nothing to do with the current 737 MAX stuff. It was all 787 related which by all reports has been a successful, safe aircraft. The horse has been out of the barn, his words were reported in the NYTimes years ago. Assassinating him now had no upside for Boeing and large downside because of all this predictable inane speculation.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by snickerer »

ixaxaar wrote: post #12

Oh so in Russia its jumping out a window and in the USA its some random method of suicide? Why not be specific, and consistent, like Russia?

Because in Russia it is an open message to the public 'don't mess with the KGB or we kill you and maybe your children'. Everybody knows and understands who is the sender and the message. Classic mafia move of intimidation. It is a message to the living.

In the Western World the secret services kill to silence people, not to broadcast messages to the public. Quite the opposite PR strategy.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by dotancohen »

pulse7 wrote: post #32
windowshopping wrote: post #29

This is kind of mind-blowing to me. First case in my lifetime where a US corporation appears to have murdered someone for political reasons. Has this happened before? I assume it has but it's very rare.

The mafia took over the Boeing Corporation...

McDonnell Douglas are hardly the Mafia.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by siriaan »

lostlogin wrote: post #50
timthelion wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was shot and there aren't any double blind studies that prove that police are capable of reliably distinguishing self inflicted wounds from non-self inflicted wounds.

It’s a bit dark, but the idea of trying to get ethics approval for a study of this sort had me laugh.

Well a university in New Zealand got the ok to blast pigs in the head with a Glock for a blood spatter study - https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/284438/how-did-shooting-...

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by georgespencer »

windowshopping wrote: post #41
gruez wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>First case in my lifetime where a US corporation appears to have murdered someone for political reasons Is there anything supporting this theory other than the fact the death benefits Boeing?

I did say "appears," but this is some Epstein levels of "coincidence." I'm not really a conspiracy-theory type, but I mean c'mon. Does anyone believe that Epstein killed himself? Makes me think of this little stand-up comedy snippet. https://www.reddit.com/r/StandUpComedy/comments/14rcr7n/cons... "I understand not believing in most conspiracy theories, but NONE? You really think the government's batting 100? They ain…

If you believe Epstein was murdered you are in a tiny, tiny, tiny minority of very gullible or very simple minded people. Upon a cursory review of both the facts of the matter and the very best arguments conspiracists can copy and paste, it is self-evident that he killed himself.
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