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As it turns out, a lot of HN is a lot more for government regulating business when it affects them personally. Have you ever seen an HN thread with so much pro-regulation sentiment?
Yes, when the service in question is a physical monopoly where there is no choice except to move.
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The definition appears to be more for the government than marketing. > Raising the speed metric is important because it helps the commission determine which areas in the country are receiving adequate internet speeds, and if more government funding is necessary. In 2015, the FCC raised the metric from 4Mbps/1Mbps to 25Mbps/3Mbps. But since then, US senators, government watchdogs, and FCC officials have urged the comm…
Most people don't need 100mbps. Netflix recommends 5mbps for HD and 25mpbs for UHD. As a country, let's make sure that everyone has the ability to watch netflix in HD on 5 TVs simultaneously in one home. Or to watch UHD on a single TV. But if there's a home out there that currently gets 50mbps but the infrastructure for 100mbps isn't in place, do we really want the government throwing money to solve that (non) proble…
With sufficient upload connectivity and ipv6, it could be possible to make “cloud” connectivity an appliance you can buy and put in your home, so that you can be freed from having to use an external cloud provider.
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The definition appears to be more for the government than marketing. > Raising the speed metric is important because it helps the commission determine which areas in the country are receiving adequate internet speeds, and if more government funding is necessary. In 2015, the FCC raised the metric from 4Mbps/1Mbps to 25Mbps/3Mbps. But since then, US senators, government watchdogs, and FCC officials have urged the comm…
Most people don't need 100mbps. Netflix recommends 5mbps for HD and 25mpbs for UHD. As a country, let's make sure that everyone has the ability to watch netflix in HD on 5 TVs simultaneously in one home. Or to watch UHD on a single TV. But if there's a home out there that currently gets 50mbps but the infrastructure for 100mbps isn't in place, do we really want the government throwing money to solve that (non) proble…
> do we really want the government throwing money to solve that (non) problem?
The FCC isn't saying you can't sell internet under this requirement. Plenty of places have still offer ADSL even though it is under the old 25/3 requirement for broadband. They just can't call it broadband and receive the federal money that goes along with providing broadband. The new rule requires ISPs that offer broadband and receive federal funds to meet the new rules. The new rule forces ISPs to provide a better service to millions of Americans or lose the money they have been receiving for years. Without the new rule ISPs get to collect the money anyways while providing an objectively worse service.
>but if there's a home out there that currently gets 50mbps but the infrastructure for 100mbps isn't in place,
What situation would that be? ADSL don't meet the old requirements anyways so its not relevant, cable based systems like DOCSIS have supported well over 100/25 for 2 decades (DOCSIS 3 can do 1gbit/200mbit and that came out in 2006 lol), and any fiber based system can obviously do more than 100/25. Even if there was some situation were 50mbit was possible but 100/20 wasn't it doesn't mean they lose internet or anything. The ISP is just forced to upgrade their system or not receive federal funds.
I like they raised the broadband minimum upload speed from 3 to 25Mbps. Spectrum's 300 Mbps broadband is only 10 Mbps up. Let's see how fast they change their statement that "an upload speed of 3 Mbps is enough for most households" [1]. [1: https://www.spectrum.com/resources/internet-wifi/what-is-a-g... ]
Makes sense why Xfinity just emailed me that they graciously decided to “double my upload speed completely free of charge”
I like they raised the broadband minimum upload speed from 3 to 25Mbps. Spectrum's 300 Mbps broadband is only 10 Mbps up. Let's see how fast they change their statement that "an upload speed of 3 Mbps is enough for most households" [1]. [1: https://www.spectrum.com/resources/internet-wifi/what-is-a-g... ]
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You can and should challenge the map then. The FCC actually has a means to do that and does respond. Ideally get an email follow up stating speeds, frontier has a habit of refusing to create a paper trail. https://help.bdc.fcc.gov/hc/en-us/articles/10476040597787-Ho...
I did this about 18 months ago, and surprisingly, Spectrum came out and actually put a new line up my road. I'd asked them off and on for years to get broadband. Last time I'd been quoted 12k to cross the little creek they stopped at and service the dozen or so houses on my side. But for whatever reason, this time they did it for free (well, normal hookup costs) after I challenged them on the FCC site.
Frontier is labeled as a fiber provider for my address on the New York State PSC Broadband map and I made sure to provide some feedback to them about that claim.
Would love to have even just a single alternative option besides satellite internet. I'm only 10 miles outside of the downtown area.
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Zoom recommends 3.8Mbps for uploading 1080p video. Being able to do 1080p video conferencing is an expectation of broadband. Raising the definition of broadband to meet this basic requirement is clearly a win. I do think 25Mbps up is more than what's required for a large number of households (>33%). I have advised family that 15Mbps is adequate when they needed to do office work from home. Perhaps the only good thing…
The technology to do asymmetric upload/download exists and many fiber-based companies offer it at the same rate as older infrastructure. It is not more expensive to offer symmetric service, but it may require infrastructure being brought more modern. For example, in the same region of Massachusetts (around Worcester) I previously paid $40/mo for 300/300 Mbps to Verizon FIOS but now after moving I pay $40/mo to Spectr…
As it turns out, a lot of HN is a lot more for government regulating business when it affects them personally. Have you ever seen an HN thread with so much pro-regulation sentiment?
IMNSHO, latency is more important than raw bandwidth, and raw bandwidth for consumer Internet is more useful as a latency improvement (because the high speed drains the buffers that much faster) than for actually using the bandwidth. If you've got actually decent Internet, or you actually do use the bandwidth, great! My experience is that only a few applications will max out my 115Mbit/s connection, and given I have…
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The only thing personally I want is the same upload speed as download. So I can connect to my home server and download/upload stuff from it.
I can see the desire for higher upload (because I have the same desire), but I don't care at all if they're the same . I'd rather have 200/20 than 15/15 or 20/20 (obviously), but I would also rather have 200/20 than 25/25.
Every household use google or apple photos app that upload backups to cloud services.