This is about Faketoshi Notamoto, right? click Yup. This guy is a pathological forger and is bad at it. Here's my write-up from when he got caught doing naughty things with ECDSA: https://rya.nc/sartre.html (as noted by another commenter, "pathological" is literal in this case)
Digital forgeries are hard
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#52I wonder why we don't have better (widely trusted and used) timestamping services. It has always been easy to prove that something happened after a certain time: take a photo of today's newspaper, mention stock prices, etc. But proving that an event happened before a certain time, like in the article, is a lot harder. You can send someone an email through a trusted gateway, but people can only check by having access…
For most purposes, mailing something to yourself for the postmark and keeping the envelope sealed would probably be adequate. It's possible to forge, but tricky enough.
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#53(Assuming this is the same case; I haven't been following Craig Wright closely) It looks like the case was very swiftly decided against Wright. Here's reporting from The Guardian about it today: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/mar/14/australia...
I always wonder about people like Wright... how does such a brain work? Why would one invest so much of his life and reputation on brazen lies and forgeries? He's been caught so many times, surely nobody can take him seriously anymore, it's over, time to move on - but here he is, forging emails and logs, digging deeper and deeper, turning his life more and more into a farce. Why?
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#54This is a great point that hasn't been aired enough. I'm thrilled to see outsiders reading the expert reports-- which are themselves fascinating reading. I'm one of Wright's defendants and have spent the last several years of my life trapped in this involuntary puzzle hunt. Often people read the conclusions on the documents and say "man this guy Wright is a total idiot"-- and while I don't disagree with the sentiment…
Thanks! The quality of the expert witness statements is astonishing, and the sheer scale of the work carried out in a relatively short period of time is something I just can't imagine. Do you know if there's any likelihood of the opposition's expert witness statements (or Craig's remaining witness statements) being made public?
I think in particular the Lynch (one of Wright's expert) report on the LaTeX files is interesting because it took a different approach than Rosendahl -- so it wasn't as duplicative: Rosendahl tried using legacy tools against the files, Lynch used current tools the combination was particularly fatal to Wright because if only one approach had been used Wright would have claimed that the other approach would have produced results that supported his case.
(Rosendahls' report itself is a great work in its own right, in spite of being a LaTeX user for >20 years I learned quite a few things from it).
I wish we'd gotten access to Wright's 22 million lines of chatgpt traffic since September, that might have been particularly interesting! -- the abuse of LLM's in the case is itself something of public interest that sadly wasn't adequately ventilated in the trial because we weren't able to get the relevant records. But there were pretty good indications that Wright used ChatGPT directly to create forgeries, aid in the construction of other forgeries, and to pad out his witness statements in a bit of a volumetric attack.
The Bitcoin legal defense fund has tried to get out most of what it could lawfully put out, -- skipping a few things with privacy issues-- but once the trial started the priority shifted to managing the case.
The default openness of the US courts may well have been the real hero in all this: documents and statements made public in the kleiman case boxed wright in from every angle. Its important that materials from this case are made public because it may not, unfortunately, be the last we hear from wright. Even where the US case didn't make some things public, it make their existence public which in some cases enabled us to obtain them: e.g. we were able to get all of Gavin's communications with Satoshi which had previously been provided to Wright and whose existence Wright tried desperately and ultimately unsuccessfully to deny.
The UK court openness is less by default, but the parties have a substantial ability to publish things-- allowing the parties to get things much closer to US practices.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
If only there was some sort of globally distributed, cryptographically verified database of some sort that could be used for this purpose …
We'd first have to admit that Bitcoin isn't a total scam and might actually be useful for something, and we can't have that now, can we?
Stuff on the block chain has a problem asserting anything that's not on the block chain, which is what a lot of people want to use it for. In this case, it's a bitcoin solution to a bitcoin problem. It's all in-universe so to speak.
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#56Craig Wright sounds like a bad liar
Over the eight years he's been at this, he has built up a cult following of people who worship the ground he walks on and will defend him ferociously at every opportunity.
Yes, he's a bad liar, but very few people can do what he does.
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#57This is a great point that hasn't been aired enough. I'm thrilled to see outsiders reading the expert reports-- which are themselves fascinating reading. I'm one of Wright's defendants and have spent the last several years of my life trapped in this involuntary puzzle hunt. Often people read the conclusions on the documents and say "man this guy Wright is a total idiot"-- and while I don't disagree with the sentiment…
Did you get to see any of Ramona's box of last-minute handwritten evidence? While I'm glad you didn't have to deal with it and drag things out further, I'd love to see more entertainingly obvious forgeries, like the notepad dated '07 that wasn't printed until 2012.
I very much did not enjoy having to read a large amount of handwritten nonsense on a short fuse during the trial... and in some sense he was successful with them in that he wasted an enormous amount of time that could have been spent on something else, an they likely won't weigh against him substantially if at all since they didn't get used.
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#58I'm reminded of the theory that the 2017 DNC email leak was forged to look like it had come from a Russian, when a deeper analysis suggested it had come via local thumb drive: https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2017/08/23/exclusive-n...
There is this theory of the Moebius. A twist in the fabric of space where time becomes a loop from which there is no escape.
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#59This is about Faketoshi Notamoto, right? click Yup. This guy is a pathological forger and is bad at it. Here's my write-up from when he got caught doing naughty things with ECDSA: https://rya.nc/sartre.html (as noted by another commenter, "pathological" is literal in this case)
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#60Craig Wright sounds like a bad liar
He is an expert at statements that brim with sound and fury but which signify nothing, and so although they covey some impression their content leaves nothing to falsify.
He immediately deceives many people. Some of his approach is polarizing, particularly the technobabbling-- people either fall hard for him or see right through him-- but generally a conman only needs to fool some people, not everyone.
The technobabbling even sometimes works on technical people, particularly when they go in pre-awed by him, they assume that misunderstandings are errors on their part.
Like if you met Knuth and asked him a question and he replied with a bunch of jargon you've barely heard about but it doesn't really sound right... you're not going to suddenly start thinking he's a big fake, right? you're going to assume you're the clueless one.