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Digital forgeries are hard

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Re: Digital forgeries are hard

#6
I wonder why we don't have better (widely trusted and used) timestamping services. It has always been easy to prove that something happened after a certain time: take a photo of today's newspaper, mention stock prices, etc.

But proving that an event happened before a certain time, like in the article, is a lot harder. You can send someone an email through a trusted gateway, but people can only check by having access to that mailbox, or trusting the person who has access. And I know about PKI timestamping, but I've never seen them used for legal cases, maybe because the complexity erodes trust.

Are there any good solutions that would convince a non-technical judge?

Edit: I remember Twitter[1] being used for this purpose, but I don't know if today I'd trust a hash dropped there, given how much it's evolving and/or struggling.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26609183

Re: Digital forgeries are hard

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post #5

I'm reminded of the theory that the 2017 DNC email leak was forged to look like it had come from a Russian, when a deeper analysis suggested it had come via local thumb drive: https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2017/08/23/exclusive-n...

There is this theory of the Moebius. A twist in the fabric of space where time becomes a loop from which there is no escape.

Re: Digital forgeries are hard

#10
Holy smokes isn’t forging evidence a crime?

Even if it’s hard to prove exactly that he did it, there’s a strong motive and means and a lot of pretty shocking evidence of forgery here.

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