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Re: Experienced engineers are struggling to get hired

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Post by patresh »

cageface wrote: post #3
whiterknight wrote: post #2

This is a topic thats hard to discuss without macro level data. We don’t know this person’s preferences, location, background, etc.

The trend here is unmistakeable: https://hnhiring.com/trends Only one source of course, but I think it's indicative of the state of the overall market.

How can one explain the graph you linked given the recent bull market in stocks?

Wouldn't this mean that capital is flowing in which should lead to more hiring? Is the job market response delayed or are there other factors?

Re: Experienced engineers are struggling to get hired

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Post by bb88 »

elwebmaster wrote: post #9

Market is the worst it has ever been, at least in the last 10 years but even before because now supply significantly outnumbers demand. Most people on LinkedIn have a green badge. The economy is doomed. Keep rising interest rates to the sky.

The economy cycles between greed and fear, without any room in the middle for stability. All of economics is group psychology.

2000/2001, 2008, 2020 and others were bad years and growth eventually happened. But even The Great Depression lifted eventually.

If I had a choice, I would choose gentle growth rather than boom years and bust years.

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Post by swatcoder »

robofanatic wrote: post #11

well just last week I heard on NPR, may be Marketplace. They were saying there are these huge tech layoffs happening but unemployment claims haven't gone up that much because people are getting new jobs quickly. So basically I don't know what/who to believe.

Unemployment is capped very low compared to tech salaries, involves a bunch of paperwork, and requires you to attest that you're actively pursuing opportunties for work in your field.

Lots of highly paid people don't bother with it, even when they might have qualified -- whether because they're lazy to lazy to do the paperwork for a small offset against their expenses, or because they intentionally took time away from the labor market after being fired and aren't into lying about it.

Re: Experienced engineers are struggling to get hired

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Post by geuis »

h02 wrote: post #14

And we're having a hard time finding experienced and skilled engineers... trying to hire for a senior nodejs role, over a thousand applicants (most people just hit apply without reading the description, over half are disqualified for not meeting the basic requirements), dozens interviewed, and we've only managed to hire 1 person that seemed close to being qualified, and he quit after 2 months of barely working. We're…

Shoot me an email. I ran and scaled a nodejs api supporting about 1.5 billion requests per month up until December when I sold it. I have many, many years of experience in the node ecosystem and am currently looking for a new role.

Re: Experienced engineers are struggling to get hired

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Post by davidgerard »

h02 wrote: post #14

And we're having a hard time finding experienced and skilled engineers... trying to hire for a senior nodejs role, over a thousand applicants (most people just hit apply without reading the description, over half are disqualified for not meeting the basic requirements), dozens interviewed, and we've only managed to hire 1 person that seemed close to being qualified, and he quit after 2 months of barely working. We're…

Is there room to up the pay?

Bolting after two months suggests something of concern.

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