Linus Torvalds won't do github pull requests

Post by jasonwatkinspdx » Sat, May 12, 2012, 7:50 PM UTC

natep wrote: post #213

jasonwatkinspdx wrote: post #189

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I think people are arguing for two reasons: 1.) Linus is being a bully. There's a difference between speaking your mind openly and using rhetorical force to invalidate contrary views. 2.) The kernel requirements can be whatever those who control the kernel demand. That's just common sense. Making the leap to declaring that only one text wrapping approach is objectively correct is delusional. If Linus simply said "The…

2. He clearly stated his reasons why his text wrapping approach is objectively superior (not correct). If you think he's delusional, point out the criterion he has failed to consider, or explain how some other system meets any of his criteria better. In response to the pull request he did simply say "I don't do github pull requests." and explained why, and basically said he would if github supported commit messages i…

Post by 73ChargerFan » Sat, May 12, 2012, 8:40 PM UTC

mkramlich wrote: post #193

tytso wrote: post #159

I don't understand why people are upset with Linus's writing style. I considered what he wrote to be quite polite. He was merely stating his standards in terms of what he would and wouldn't accept (and github pull requests are on the "won't accept" list). He even explained why he wouldn't accept it. Furthermore, the patch was deficient in other ways. (a) it was missing the Signed-off-by: header, and (b) it should hav…

I think Torvalds position in this issue was correct. But I disagree with the description of him being polite. In one of his comments his quote was like, "You are a moron." That's not polite. Granted, he has a well-established style when he goes into rant mode on a certain issue. And Linux is his baby more than anybody else's. And he almost always takes the right side of any issue. So we should all cut him some slack.…

Post by chromatic » Sat, May 12, 2012, 9:18 PM UTC

mst wrote: post #188

flomo wrote: post #100

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Note Torvalds is incredibly polite and articulate when speaking to the public or press. However in technical fora he carries an old-school 1992 usenet-style flamethrower. Its just the way most of those old *nix guys interact.

Some of us who're less old interact that way too, and find it a hell of a lot more efficient than trying to be nice. The point of technical fora is to have effective, high bandwidth discussions on technical matters. If I want a hug, I can go get a real one from a real live human being - and I'll interact with them in an appropriate way for that context, too.

Post by gft » Sat, May 12, 2012, 9:24 PM UTC

trustfundbaby wrote: post #168

I get the point he's trying to make and completely agree with it, but the way he presented his issues just made me lose respect for him a little bit ... I just wish someone that respected was able to present his views in a way that younger developers could emulate. I can't help thinking tons of "rockstar/ninja" developers out there are going to embrace this abrasive style of disagreeing with people and totally ration…

Post by Roritharr » Sat, May 12, 2012, 11:10 PM UTC

pimeys wrote: post #258

slowpoke wrote: post #256

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> Like in Germany people have lots of PC for Jewish people. Which is probably also the best example of why PC is dumb. For example, it's hard to criticize Israel in German politics. At best, you'll be looked at in funny ways, at the worst you'll be accused of being a nazi.

There are good things in the anti nazi movement. People still remember and they don't want it to happen again. Still I don't understand why you can't criticize the politics of Israel in Germany. Even my Israeli friends do it.