> The National Guard members will conduct random bag checks on passengers I'm not asking this out of disbelief, but just out of genuine curiosity: What is the legal foundation that allows them to randomly search people who are simply going about their day? What happens whenever people say "no, you can't search my bag." ?
The same one that lets them search you at airports. You can say no, but then you cannot board the train.
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they stop and frisk people on the street in NY too
You can say no, but then you shouldn't walk on the streets.
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#14> The National Guard members will conduct random bag checks on passengers I'm not asking this out of disbelief, but just out of genuine curiosity: What is the legal foundation that allows them to randomly search people who are simply going about their day? What happens whenever people say "no, you can't search my bag." ?
I am not a lawyer, but I agree, this seems to be on questionable legal footing... Fourth Amendment: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things t…
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I am not a lawyer, but I agree, this seems to be on questionable legal footing... Fourth Amendment: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things t…
This only applies to the gov't
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#17> The National Guard members will conduct random bag checks on passengers I'm not asking this out of disbelief, but just out of genuine curiosity: What is the legal foundation that allows them to randomly search people who are simply going about their day? What happens whenever people say "no, you can't search my bag." ?
What happens if you refuse a search is you leave the platform and get back onto the street where you're allowed to move about freely without being subject to search.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
The same one that lets them search you at airports. You can say no, but then you cannot board the train.
they stop and frisk people on the street in NY too
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#19> The National Guard members will conduct random bag checks on passengers I'm not asking this out of disbelief, but just out of genuine curiosity: What is the legal foundation that allows them to randomly search people who are simply going about their day? What happens whenever people say "no, you can't search my bag." ?
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#20It’d be great if we were mature enough as a society to have a nice chat about why there is so much suffering and crime in American cities but alas.