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Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder

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Post by popcalc »

_chu1 wrote: post #93
burnerthrow008 wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, I suppose that’s perfectly fine if you’re the wasteful sort of person who uses a personal vehicle instead of a bike or public transit. But what about the responsible people who actually care about reducing their carbon footprint by not unnecessarily carrying 3000 lbs of steel everywhere they go?

I live in central Alabama. Would take over 4 hours to walk or bike to get groceries. Not everyone lives in a huge city and the ones in Alabama are too dangerous to walk around in without concealed carrying a firearm (except for Huntsville).

Do you want to move out? Sounds like South Africa levels of dire.

Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder

#102

Post by 43920 »

_chu1 wrote: post #93
burnerthrow008 wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, I suppose that’s perfectly fine if you’re the wasteful sort of person who uses a personal vehicle instead of a bike or public transit. But what about the responsible people who actually care about reducing their carbon footprint by not unnecessarily carrying 3000 lbs of steel everywhere they go?

I live in central Alabama. Would take over 4 hours to walk or bike to get groceries. Not everyone lives in a huge city and the ones in Alabama are too dangerous to walk around in without concealed carrying a firearm (except for Huntsville).

Is this based on particular evidence, or just a feeling?

I lived in Birmingham for a while (admittedly not in the downtown), and this was not my experience at all, nor have I ever heard this from anyone else I knew, including people that did live downtown. Obviously, there are better and worse areas like everywhere else, but most of the city is basically fine IMO.

Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder

#103

Post by ImPostingOnHN »

acomjean wrote: post #90
ryanmcbride wrote: post #75

Seeing people defend the cassettes is weird. Here's how I look at it: 1. The company say's being eco friendly is important to them. 2. They manufacture, sell, and ship expensive plastic containers for their detergent. 3. The machines don't necessarily need this specific detergent, and will work fine by leaving in one of the "cassettes" and just using normal dish detergent. This means that the cassettes were never nec…

Maybe seems like "cheating" to refill as it messes with the business model. My experiences are with Printers and ink. A studio I'm a member of inherited a big epson4880 printer. Its a big heavy machine, well built. It came with a "chip resetter" tool for refilling ink carts. The printer seems to know that its using non-epson inks (it warns me on the little display, and I have to click through) but it allows them (rig…

> Companies never seem to want offer more expensive products with cheaper use costs.

A recurring revenue stream, often via subscription, ideally with vendor lock-in, seems to be en vogue, judging purely anecdotally. You saw it in printers and razor blades, but "x as a service" is everywhere, seemingly increasingly so now. Rolls Royce does it for jet engines with their "power by the hour" program, for example (and has for decades).

From a seller business/investor standpoint, consistent net recurring revenue can often be better due to the predictability and planning it enables. Also it's easier to "hook" a consumer with a lower up-front price.

From a buyer standpoint, it's often easier to get approval for operational expenses than capital expenses, whether from higher management, or from investors. Also consumers often simply won't do the math to compare the two models, simply picking the cheaper one and then totally ignoring OpEx.

Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder

#104

Post by nextlevelwizard »

_chu1 wrote: post #79
nextlevelwizard wrote: post #72

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Whole point of convenience stores is to be convenient. Carrying a big ass bag with me for the off chance I go to the store is just silly.

We keep reusable bags in the car for every time we go to the grocery store. I think the entire country would only benefit from banning single-use plastic bags nationally, and I'm not sure how you could have an issue with that.

The issue I have is already stated in the first message. You just don't want to accept it.

I have another question for you while I have your attention; how do you handle trash? Do you just have a bin with no liner and you carry that to outside and pour it in to the big bin? Or do you buy plastic bags at the store to line your bin and then carry that plastic bag filled with crap to the bigger bin?

Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder

#106

Post by thecosmicfrog »

AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #12

Shout out here for the youtube channel he mentions turned him onto the bob. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVup5ya0WVQ / https://www.youtube.com/user/Techmoan Mat/Techmoan has a perfectly eclectic mix of useful current generation hardware reviews (with his reviews skewed to things which Work Well, are well built and resilient vs fancy features) and nostalgic reviews of electronics (sometimes of things you never knew…

Agreed wholeheartedly. Techmoan is one of those channels I'm always excited to see a new video from.

Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder

#107

Post by lupire »

avery17 wrote: post #63
beirut_bootleg wrote: post #29

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Permit me to disagree with about all of your conclusions here. First of all, the cassettes are returnable. This is also mentioned on their website. * https://daan.tech/discover-bob-cassette/ > Each Bob cassette is returnable and reusable. We refill them and put them back on the market. Close the loop, lower your carbon footprint. You're also NOT required to use the cassettes. You can just throw standard dishwasher ta…

Nj recently banned single use plastic bags. Now instead of people actually reusing the reusable bags forever they just throw them out almost every time. Everyone who buys this machine is not going to go out of their way to return the casettes. America is obsessed with convenience and will continute throwing out perfectly reusable things until we have a massive cultural shift.

This machine is for Europeans.

Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder

#108

Post by lupire »

burnerthrow008 wrote: post #91
_chu1 wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We keep reusable bags in the car for every time we go to the grocery store. I think the entire country would only benefit from banning single-use plastic bags nationally, and I'm not sure how you could have an issue with that.

Well, I suppose that’s perfectly fine if you’re the wasteful sort of person who uses a personal vehicle instead of a bike or public transit. But what about the responsible people who actually care about reducing their carbon footprint by not unnecessarily carrying 3000 lbs of steel everywhere they go?

Those responsible people are welcome to do so, but they are statistically irrelevant and so have no place inarge scale planning.

Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder

#109

Post by lupire »

deinonychus wrote: post #89
wrigby wrote: post #86

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I mostly agree, but here in NYC I don’t have a car to keep the bags in. If I stop at the grocery store on my way home from work, I either have to have planned ahead and put a reusable bag in my work backpack, or I have to buy more reusable bags (which eventually get tossed because we have too many of them). It’s definitely better to have the bag with me, and just typing this out made me realize I can keep one or two…

I personally keep in my daily backpack a reusable Baggu that packs down nicely and doesn’t take up much space. As long as you have a daily bag/purse/whatever and you’re not strapped for space, it’s pretty easily solved, yeah. I live in not-NYC so I also keep a bag in the car. I have some sympathy if you find yourself on a weekend out and about and needing to spontaneously buy some victuals and don’t have any bag on y…

Don't even need a Baggu. Single use bags aren't inherently single use, they are just cheap enough to throw away. No one prevents you from bringing a tight-packing lightweight "single use" bag back to the store to use again.

Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder

#110

Post by lupire »

ovi256 wrote: post #28
maeln wrote: post #23

It is very ironic that they sell it has "eco-compact dishwasher" when it require disposable chunk of plastic to use it. The amount of water saved will really not make up for the amount of plastic thrash created. From their website: "At Daan Tech, we’ve always believed that a more sustainable and fairer world is possible.", you really have to be cynical to write something like this and then sell a worse washing machin…

> "At Daan Tech, we’ve always believed that a more sustainable and fairer world is possible.", you really have to be cynical to write something like this I tend to assume incompetence rather than malice. The marketing person that wrote that piece of copy never worried about the lifecycle waste analysis of the project they were working on, because they trusted the CEO/founder that hired them, who said it was gonna be…

Weaponized incompetence.
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