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Every time this gets posted to HN, the comments go straight for "DRM bad!", when the Bob dishwasher does NOT in fact require you to use the proprietary cassettes.
It is absurd that it exists at all. A DRM'd cassette for dish soap. This world needs an enema.
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Permit me to disagree with about all of your conclusions here. First of all, the cassettes are returnable. This is also mentioned on their website. * https://daan.tech/discover-bob-cassette/ > Each Bob cassette is returnable and reusable. We refill them and put them back on the market. Close the loop, lower your carbon footprint. You're also NOT required to use the cassettes. You can just throw standard dishwasher ta…
Nj recently banned single use plastic bags. Now instead of people actually reusing the reusable bags forever they just throw them out almost every time. Everyone who buys this machine is not going to go out of their way to return the casettes. America is obsessed with convenience and will continute throwing out perfectly reusable things until we have a massive cultural shift.
Result: Now there's even more plastic in the waste stream.
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If hacking cartridges becomes popular enough that it impacts their cartridge sales, they might put out a firmware update that does just that, but it looks like they went with the "lazy option" first?
Daan Tech broke their firmware update mechanism for lots of dishwashers in the field by losing their keys, more than once too. I own one such dishwasher and can't update the firmware without replacing the main board. They could certainly prevent cartridge resetting in newer dishwashers.
I've never heard of liquid dishwasher detergent before, but > With shipping and VAT added, it costs a whopping £43 ($60) for 90 washes! That is 48p (67c) per wash. This about matches the cost of "premium" (think Dreft, Finish, etc.) dishwasher detergent tablets in my country.
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Whole point of convenience stores is to be convenient. Carrying a big ass bag with me for the off chance I go to the store is just silly.
We keep reusable bags in the car for every time we go to the grocery store. I think the entire country would only benefit from banning single-use plastic bags nationally, and I'm not sure how you could have an issue with that.
It’s definitely better to have the bag with me, and just typing this out made me realize I can keep one or two in my backpack at all times.
For being sleek and compact, that main door sure is bulbous. Anyone know what’s inside it? The recessed window makes it look like it’s superfluous.
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I read this as "owner of _a_ Bob", as opposed to the owner of the actual company.
I can see now how that line can give the wrong impression. My unit is very dear to me, to the point where I call it by name like any other housemate. It's always "honey, I'll give Bob a go at these dishes". I guess I was expecting constructive discourse on HN without having to dodge knee-jerk comments at every step.
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We keep reusable bags in the car for every time we go to the grocery store. I think the entire country would only benefit from banning single-use plastic bags nationally, and I'm not sure how you could have an issue with that.
I mostly agree, but here in NYC I don’t have a car to keep the bags in. If I stop at the grocery store on my way home from work, I either have to have planned ahead and put a reusable bag in my work backpack, or I have to buy more reusable bags (which eventually get tossed because we have too many of them). It’s definitely better to have the bag with me, and just typing this out made me realize I can keep one or two…
I have some sympathy if you find yourself on a weekend out and about and needing to spontaneously buy some victuals and don’t have any bag on you - but that’s the cost of us having less litter.
Seeing people defend the cassettes is weird. Here's how I look at it: 1. The company say's being eco friendly is important to them. 2. They manufacture, sell, and ship expensive plastic containers for their detergent. 3. The machines don't necessarily need this specific detergent, and will work fine by leaving in one of the "cassettes" and just using normal dish detergent. This means that the cassettes were never nec…
My experiences are with Printers and ink. A studio I'm a member of inherited a big epson4880 printer. Its a big heavy machine, well built. It came with a "chip resetter" tool for refilling ink carts. The printer seems to know that its using non-epson inks (it warns me on the little display, and I have to click through) but it allows them (right now filled with cleaning solution, but thats another storry).
Newer printers don't allow this (unless you are in Europe). Apparently they are running out of DRM chips, and some of the new printers require a firmware update to use new ink cartridges using the older chips.
One can see a day when these printers/dishwashers no longer have ink/detergents manufactured for them, becoming big paperweights.
Companies never seem to want offer more expensive products with cheaper use costs. Maybe the problem is people don't think about it enough? Where I live the markets have 2 prices listed on the shelves. 1) the cost of the package, 2) the cost per unit of the package (eg cost per oz, cost per pill etc..). Its much easier to compare.
[1] https://shop.inkjetmall.com/Epson-SureColor-P900
"We are currently supplying the European Region versions of this printer model. They can work with a simple chip resetter and refillable cartridges (which we do not supply). Unfortunately, the USA Region versions of this printer have been designed by EPSON to prevent the use of non-EPSON chips and are designed to prevent the use of a chip resetter. As a result, we do not believe any 3rd party solutions may become available for the USA region printers for some considerable time until the anti-3rd party mechanism that prevents the use of 3rd party products is discovered and circumvented.."