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Ex-Google engineer charged with stealing trade secrets

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Re: Ex-Google engineer charged with stealing trade secrets

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Post by yellow_lead »

unsupp0rted wrote: post #143
ithkuil wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps just perhaps the task is a bit harder than what you make it sound like Instances of people sharing the same name are far more common in china than elsewhere. For example there are more than 30 thousand people called "Wang Wei". The fact is complicated by the fact that the writing systems are different and transliteration errors are commonplace.

How many people named Wang Wei in any given year become the officers of companies? Google could even automate this with an email, opting into which would be a requirement for any senior employee handling the kind of information the US government cares about. "A person sharing your name has registered a company in China, as of 2024-03-07. To affirm that you are not related to this person, please click this link. If yo…

"Yes, I am not this person"

phew

Re: Ex-Google engineer charged with stealing trade secrets

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Post by DarkByte8 »

jojobas wrote: post #74
seneca wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, from his perspective it's likely morally right, but he was very likely aware it is illegal in the US. This nicely highlights a difficulty with globalism.

Failing to vet foreign employees working on highly sensitive projects predates globalism by a long shot. Even Manhattan Project got penetrated.

Hope they get the same treatment has those that penetrated Manhattan Project, the Rosenberg treatment.

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Post by neom »

freedomben wrote: post #168
neom wrote: post #150

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I am by no means an expert at all, however my very basic understanding is that ITAR is primarily concerned with important/export controls? Even if AI was added but the specific staffing was to a project was totally unrelated to something that would be imported or exported (this guy was an infra guy it looks like?), would that apply?

I'm no expert either, but from living through the painful days of ITAR and encryption, it only matters that some technology/information can be used for military purpose for it to be restricted. For years we couldn't distribute the code for AES above 128 due to ITAR, even though it was widely and easily available all over the internet.

If you'd care to opine, would you then there agree with delfinom that ITAR in AI could be a solution to this? From what you just described, it made me wonder if it would impose undo burden on, and so hamper, the emergence of the next generation of NN/ML tools ("AI").

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Post by ilickpoolalgae »

feverzsj wrote: post #27

So he was already CEO/CTO of 2 China companies while still working in google. And these information are publicly available right after he registering them. Seems a management disaster of google.

I used to work at a Chinese tech company. I hear that it's pretty common to use aliases, instead of your real name, due to anti-compete clauses when you switch between companies. Even if a company had the ability to do background checks, like you mentioned, it'd be pretty hard to automate if the practice is commonplace.
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