But wait, could it be that the reason for the bizarre "xor 0x50" is so that they have a "technological protection measure" in place to trigger anti-circumvention rules? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_and_Information_Soci...)
Bob_cassette_rewinder
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Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
Permit me to disagree with about all of your conclusions here. First of all, the cassettes are returnable. This is also mentioned on their website. * https://daan.tech/discover-bob-cassette/ > Each Bob cassette is returnable and reusable. We refill them and put them back on the market. Close the loop, lower your carbon footprint. You're also NOT required to use the cassettes. You can just throw standard dishwasher ta…
Nj recently banned single use plastic bags. Now instead of people actually reusing the reusable bags forever they just throw them out almost every time. Everyone who buys this machine is not going to go out of their way to return the casettes. America is obsessed with convenience and will continute throwing out perfectly reusable things until we have a massive cultural shift.
Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder
#73i like the story, but i cant help but notice that the "cassette" is solving a non-existent problem who the fuck has to measure a dishwasher tablet?
This dishwasher is much smaller, so would require smaller tablets to work work efficiently. Certainly possible, and Daan Tech sell small tablets for this use. One benefit of measured detergent is that the wash cycle can dispense the correct amount for different parts of the cycle, for example the pre-wash can dispense a small amount and the main cycle can dispense a larger amount. The rinse at the end can dispense ri…
Only reason I changed to full size one was because I got tired of pouring the water in each time
Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder
#74Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder
#751. The company say's being eco friendly is important to them.
2. They manufacture, sell, and ship expensive plastic containers for their detergent.
3. The machines don't necessarily need this specific detergent, and will work fine by leaving in one of the "cassettes" and just using normal dish detergent.
This means that the cassettes were never necessary, and are purely a separate stream of income for the company. Literally the printer ink method.
Which means they didn't have to produce this plastic waste at all, they could have just allowed it to use a smaller amount of liquid or powder detergent (pre-portioned pods are probably too much detergent).
Hell even if they wanted to continue with the printer ink approach, they could have used powder detergent in little wax-lined cardboard containers.
Regardless of how well they're recycling or re-using the cassettes returned to them, the cassettes never needed to exist. It's more plastic taking up more space in more polluting delivery trucks.
At the end of the day this company is selling a dishwasher and a detergent subscription service. It's not the worst thing out there and it's not creating nearly as much plastic waste as the fishing industry but it's still a company greenwashing itself to sell you more garbage.
Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder
#76Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder
#77It is very ironic that they sell it has "eco-compact dishwasher" when it require disposable chunk of plastic to use it. The amount of water saved will really not make up for the amount of plastic thrash created. From their website: "At Daan Tech, we’ve always believed that a more sustainable and fairer world is possible.", you really have to be cynical to write something like this and then sell a worse washing machin…
Permit me to disagree with about all of your conclusions here. First of all, the cassettes are returnable. This is also mentioned on their website. * https://daan.tech/discover-bob-cassette/ > Each Bob cassette is returnable and reusable. We refill them and put them back on the market. Close the loop, lower your carbon footprint. You're also NOT required to use the cassettes. You can just throw standard dishwasher ta…
Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder
#78Every time this gets posted to HN, the comments go straight for "DRM bad!", when the Bob dishwasher does NOT in fact require you to use the proprietary cassettes.
Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nj recently banned single use plastic bags. Now instead of people actually reusing the reusable bags forever they just throw them out almost every time. Everyone who buys this machine is not going to go out of their way to return the casettes. America is obsessed with convenience and will continute throwing out perfectly reusable things until we have a massive cultural shift.
Whole point of convenience stores is to be convenient. Carrying a big ass bag with me for the off chance I go to the store is just silly.
Re: Bob_cassette_rewinder
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, tfa shows an excerpt from Bob saying they have the facilities to clean and reuse the cartridges.
tfa?