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Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

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Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

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Even setting aside the dubious morality of Apple's rules on iOS, I feel like I'm going insane watching Apple be maximally aggressive. The EU loves regulating! There's nothing they love more! It seems supremely unwise to give them additional excuses to do something they clearly want to do anyways.

Having worked for many bosses, never ever never undersestimate the power of ego of an executive. It's only second to the ego of a lawyer. Many of them will tank their company and their client if they get their ego bruised and feel publicly humiliated. Those are hyper competitive people which see live as zero sum game and are trained in life to never, ever, lose a challenge or competition for domination. ESPECIALLY in…

I'm willing to believe Apple may be like that behind the scenes, buuuuuut while reading this:

> Many of them will tank their company and their client if they get their ego bruised and feel publicly humiliated. Those are hyper competitive people which see live as zero sum game and are trained in life to never, ever, lose a challenge or competition for domination. ESPECIALLY in public.

… I thought you were going to name Sweeney as the petulant man-child chafing at rules and being told "no".

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I wonder why Apple doesn't open up. Or else just switch to a Costco model where membership means they get to dictate what’s sold at what margin using which credit card network? Is the end game to force regulation on everyone (Google, etc) and then switch to a Costco model themselves?

Money.

Why give up 30% of everything on your store?

Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

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> According to Epic, Apple reportedly told the company that it’s “a threat to their ecosystem.” Note they're not saying Epic is a security threat or has a product that endangers Apple customers. Instead, they're calling Epic, the company itself, a threat to Apple's ecosystem . This quote makes sense, if you replace "ecosystem" with "monopoly."

I think it is to make Epic out to be the villain. At the same time: > This quote makes sense, if you replace "ecosystem" with "monopoly." In the US, iPhone has a 57.93% market share. As of 2023, Android has a 70.29% global market share.

It's a subjective monopoly. In fact everything is a subjective monopoly. And nothing is.

Some people just like regulating everything.

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Apple should get out of the European market entirely. Their product offering is literally incompatible with the laws that govern EU commerce. There's plenty of money to be made in Asia/Pacific and the Americas. Apple's walled-garden approach is innovative especially on the security and stability fronts and anyone who doesn't like that or wants alternative launchers should jailbreak their ios device or just use Androi…

Apple investors would publicly crucify tim cook in the middle of their spaceship campus if he were to take the company out of Europe.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it is to make Epic out to be the villain. At the same time: > This quote makes sense, if you replace "ecosystem" with "monopoly." In the US, iPhone has a 57.93% market share. As of 2023, Android has a 70.29% global market share.

They have a monopoloy on distribution channels of iOS Apps. There is no way, other than through the App Store, for a developer to sell software to the owner of an Apple device such that the owner can execute that software on their own device.

So create another phone platform and compete.

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That hot tempered decision will cost them a lot of money. They were already in a bad situation for essentially making the alternative stores worthless but cutting off Epic over a few tweets will further cement the idea that there's a competition problem going on here, this is also directly contradicting the DMA.

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Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

More likely, Apple needs to withdraw entirely from the EU and see what happens.

My guesses: A big party at Google, a wave of so-so smartphones from companies that will try their luck in the high-end smartphones segment, a grey market of iPhones imported from other countries at high prices without warranty.

Grey import is usually cheaper due to higher taxes in EU.

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Clearly the recent 1.8B Euro fine the EU levied against Apple didn't send a message. Perhaps the EU needs to ratchet it up by an order of magnitude.

More likely, Apple needs to withdraw entirely from the EU and see what happens.

Investors will be very angry and the entire C-suites will be at risk of losing their jobs. They're doing this only because it will maximize their revenue/profit through market control.

Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

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I wonder why Apple doesn't open up. Or else just switch to a Costco model where membership means they get to dictate what’s sold at what margin using which credit card network? Is the end game to force regulation on everyone (Google, etc) and then switch to a Costco model themselves?

In the immortal words of Rod Blagojevich, “I've got this thing and it's fucking golden, and, uh, uh, I'm just not giving it up for fuckin' nothing. I'm not gonna do it.”
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