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#303Epic is learning the lesson that Nvidia had to learn. Apple holds grudges. Honestly, it was idiotic of them to expect anything else. Maybe they thought that they were more Samsung-like and after being a huge pain to apple, life will resume normalcy. Apple needed Samsung. They do not need Epic.
Grudges are unproductive and bring no benefit to the shareholder - this move is almost certainly going to result in a lawsuit that Epic would be in a good position in (assuming there aren't massive skeletons in the closet). This is an irrational move - especially in an election year when politicians have a lot to gain by demonizing late stage capitalism.
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#304So apple are now deciding who can be an App Store. That’s not going to work out well for them.
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#305> According to Epic, Apple reportedly told the company that it’s “a threat to their ecosystem.” Note they're not saying Epic is a security threat or has a product that endangers Apple customers. Instead, they're calling Epic, the company itself, a threat to Apple's ecosystem . This quote makes sense, if you replace "ecosystem" with "monopoly."
Monopolies are not a bad thing, except when they are enforced with violence=government.
Fortunately no one forces you to use Apple's products.
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#306I wonder why Apple doesn't open up. Or else just switch to a Costco model where membership means they get to dictate what’s sold at what margin using which credit card network? Is the end game to force regulation on everyone (Google, etc) and then switch to a Costco model themselves?
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#307Earlier quoted context omitted.
Epic doesn't care whether Apple shows "grace", or needs them to, they are going in by force with the backing of the EU legislation. It might just take a year or two longer to get through the courts. They can hold out that long without any problems, preparing their store in the background.
I'm not aware of any duty to deal in the DMA.
> 12. The gatekeeper shall apply fair, reasonable, and non-discriminatory general conditions of access for business users to its software application stores, online search engines and online social networking services listed in the designation decision pursuant to Article 3(9).
Apple don't get to deny access to their main competitor in this space just as a show of force. That is not fair, reasonable or non-discriminatory.
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#308> According to Epic, Apple reportedly told the company that it’s “a threat to their ecosystem.” Note they're not saying Epic is a security threat or has a product that endangers Apple customers. Instead, they're calling Epic, the company itself, a threat to Apple's ecosystem . This quote makes sense, if you replace "ecosystem" with "monopoly."
I think it is to make Epic out to be the villain. At the same time: > This quote makes sense, if you replace "ecosystem" with "monopoly." In the US, iPhone has a 57.93% market share. As of 2023, Android has a 70.29% global market share.
They have a monopoloy on distribution channels of iOS Apps. There is no way, other than through the App Store, for a developer to sell software to the owner of an Apple device such that the owner can execute that software on their own device.
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#309That hot tempered decision will cost them a lot of money. They were already in a bad situation for essentially making the alternative stores worthless but cutting off Epic over a few tweets will further cement the idea that there's a competition problem going on here, this is also directly contradicting the DMA.
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#310Isn't Apple providing side loading for customers in Europe now? Sure, Apple is being petty, but I thought this is was what Epic asked for. Can anyone ELI5 this one?
They aren't actually allowing sideloading, but the ability to install "marketplaces", which can only be provided by verified developers under very strict rules regarding government. It's a huge disappointment.