In its extreme alcohol is a truth serum. The ones who don't drink want to keep their secrets to themselves and can't be trusted.
Alcohol actually has minimal effect on me aside from impaired coordination and feeling ill the next day, feeling a bit stupid & foggy.
I just don’t enjoy it much.
I do think my lying improves due to lack of inhibitions about lying (I’m quite good at lying but find it distasteful/onerous under usual circumstances, having to keep the lies straight).
Alcoholics lie, cheat and steal to fuel their habit. Extreme alcohol is a horrific poison to the body and mind. I'd wager a healthy man who can drink you under the table, wouldn't reveal any secrets. He'll finish the drink in his own time.
Having a drink with the colleagues has nothing to do with alcoholism. I used to organize nights out with colleagues even if I was never drinking alcohol (I had to drive). But the point in "going for a beer" is socializing and informal communication, not the beer.
The internet has done a great job illustrating the huge range of what people think “normal” drinking looks like.
There are a surprising amount of people that think anybody that has ever been drunk is an alcoholic.
Bit of an aside, but that "low-high" context scale with the US proudly at the "tell it like it is" extreme left instantly reduces the credibility of any article where I see this. "That's an interesting idea and we should totally do lunch sometime" is Silicon Valley for "that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard and never want to see you again".
> Bit of an aside, but that "low-high" context scale with the US proudly at the "tell it like it is" extreme left instantly reduces the credibility of any article where I see this. Read further. Low context is not "telling it like it is." The U.S. is in the middle on direct-indirect negative feedback and in the middle on confrontational-avoids confrontation. The explanation of the meaning is the article too.
Meyer's scale claims that low-context means, and I quote, "Messages are expressed and understood at face value". The TFA goes on to say that "Americans are extremely direct, they say what they think."
Which is bullshit. Sorry, I mean that's a great insight and I'd love to double-click on that, but in the interest of time let's take this offline.
Kombucha is my drink of choice, but it is fermented tea so if tea is out so is kombucha. The other options I can think of are are flavored seltzers/flavored water, Mocktails/virgin cocktails/Shirley Temples, agua fresca, non-alcoholic beer, and herbal tea. Availability varies, of course.
This presentation from the Long Now Foundation makes the proposition that drinking helps create society https://longnow.org/ideas/drinking-10000-years-intoxication-... > Drawing on evidence from archaeology, history, cognitive neuroscience, psychopharmacology, social psychology, literature, and genetics, Slingerland shows that our taste for chemical intoxicants is not an evolutionary mistake, as we are so often told.…
there are plenty of other beverages that aren't alcoholic/caffeinated than just plain water
I don't really do sugary drinks, so Diet Coke/Diet Pepsi is out as well. I also just actively dislike tea and coffee, so I don't really want to go with any kind of decaf version of those either. So yeah, if the bar has Diet 7-up or Diet Caffeine Free Coke, then I'm fine, but at least in the NYC area I've not really ever seen that at a bar. They're not even guaranteed to have them at grocery stores. As it stands, the…
Seltzer + lime is a fairly standard option.
Bonus, it looks like an alcoholic drink if you’re a woman and don’t want to give the idea that you might be pregnant, which is an issue which women trying to grow in corporate situations face at events, when in reality they simply don’t like drinking and/or don’t want to be around a bunch of men getting hammered who may potentially have sway over their careers.
Even in the US, in tech firms, it's pretty common to have happy hours where everyone drinks a bit. I don't drink at all due to my sleep apnea, and don't even have caffeine after 1pm for the same reason, so I'm pretty much always in this kind of awkward position of sipping on a water throughout the night while coworkers get more and more inebriated. I don't think it's ever directly hurt my chances of promotion or anyt…
My experience at a bigtechco where they have a weekly happy hour with free alcohol is that it's a pretty small minority that partakes (~20% out of the ~20% of in-office folks that attend these after work events). I've also never seen anyone have more than ~2-3 drinks total. The median number of drinks is 1 by far.
This is all post-covid though, perhaps it was different in the before times.
Reading these kind of descriptions of asian societies always strikes me as them simply being behind. Societally or culturally. Of course the west still has a lot of these things like happy hour drinking and team events and even to some degree the adverse effects and exclusion of women, but not at the level described in the East -- because we already went thru this in like the 50s-80s. It's a partially old/solved thing. We removed the corporate weight of it and it's more of just a social thing, just part of general broader culture (which doesn't mean there is value in participation of course), and in turn, hopefully, women have been able to partake/avoid more problems etc. East Asia will perhaps grow out of it also.
Related to this, I've often thought that the popularity of Karaoke in Japan and Korea is somehow related - it may provide a 'safe' environment to escape from the relatively strict social hierarchy and roles that are pervasive in these cultures.
> Why Do East Asian Firms Value Drinking? Lack of a history of Christian puritanism? America's historic relationship with alcohol was shaped by the loonies who fled there from Europe so they could left alone to practice their ascetic forms of Christianity. A lot of phenomena in Asia cannot be properly understood if you lose sight of the lack of Christianity. For instance, could you have a mainstream, pop-band consist…