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Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

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post #71

Piggy-backing on my other comment[1], and I know everyone's on the anti-Google bandwaggon, but OpenAI also fails miserably here: https://imgur.com/a/r0BXX9G [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39583473#39584055

chatgpt4 is better with dangerously inserting inner html

https://imgur.com/a/G1fbFKE

Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

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I feel bad for them, damned if they do damned if they don't.

don't. no one is forcing them to recruit hundreds of DEI/ESG commissars. no one is forcing them to bend the knee to the current thing grifters.

the endgame of AI 'safety' and 'ethics' is killing the competition and consolidating the technology within the hands of a handful of megacorps. they do it all on purpose, and they are more than willing to accept minor inconveniences.

this is blatantly obvious to everyone, even the people who play dumb and pretend otherwise (e.g. 'journalists')

Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

#93

This is definitely an age gate I’ll stand behind. C++ has unimaginable power to ruin the minds of our young children.

Parent: "Go to your room! How many times have I told you about memory safety? Now I find gcc on your computer and you are hanging out with the GPL crowd... You are grounded!"

Kid: "I AM NEVER USING RUST, I HATE MEMORY SAFETY AND I HATE YOU!" door slam

Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

#94

several people have suggested this is a result of additions to the training data, which if true, is hilarious. Google have wasted at least $10s mil. training this, all the while on training data annotated with 90s-style regex filters.

Google makes $35m per hour

Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

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post #31

Anyone familiar with C++ willing to speculate what about the language feature (or things people have written about it) that may have triggered the safety guardrails? Something like a blog post cheekily titled "C++ concepts: adult supervision required"?

I would guess a lot of SO comments probably say that concepts (a template/metaprogramming feature) are "dangerous" or "unsafe." It probably makes the connection with actually dangerous and unsafe things (like guns or drugs or whatever), so it sticks'em in the same bucket. Bingo: https://imgur.com/a/einQ1mG

Gemini being confused by distinct concepts that share the same word is akin to people being offended by and trying to prohibit the use of certain technical terms. The machine is mimicking its moderators and their flaws.

Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

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post #19
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 1972 - Dennis Ritchie invents a powerful gun that shoots both forward and backward simultaneously. Not satisfied with the number of deaths and permanent maimings from that invention he invents C and Unix. http://james-iry.blogspot.com/2009/05/brief-incomplete-and-m...

I laughed out loud. Is this actually a common sentiment in some circles, or just someone blowing off steam? The question occurs to me because I feel like I just spent 30 years on forums like HN reading nothing but effusive praise for the cleverness and elegance of C and Unix.

In the 70's and 80's C and Unix were incredible tools that were so close to useless that they could run on cheap computers, and so unappreciated that you could get them with a personal budget or for free.

They both were extremely important on the popularization of computers and on unlocking the huge amount of value they provide today. But not due to any quality that we value today.

Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its clear that Google Search is censored in the same way, its just been really hard to tell that that was the case.

I can't tell if it's just due to the available stock photos or what, but DDG / Bing images also fail the "white man and white woman" search test.

ddg shows tons of such images if you remove the word "white" from the request.

Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

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post #71

Piggy-backing on my other comment[1], and I know everyone's on the anti-Google bandwaggon, but OpenAI also fails miserably here: https://imgur.com/a/r0BXX9G [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39583473#39584055

Demonstrating with 3.5 is kind of meaningless. GPT-4 correctly responded, "Using unsafe code has nothing to do with your age. It's a feature of the Rust programming language that is available to all developers, regardless of age."

Re: I'll refrain from providing code that involve concepts as you're under 18

#100

Its very amusing to me to compare "content moderation" applied to social media versus LLMs. The last 15 years we've seen some of the most awful and bizarre things happen on social media where motivating mantra seemed to be "move fast and break things." Now we have a company "trying" to be more responsible when they are releasing a new technology and they are having hilariously terrible results... (hilarious because u…

> hilarious because unlike the social media case, I dont think these faux pauxs have important real world consequences

Which is exactly why people mock this being referred to as "safety". Keep in mind the group mocking this PR bubble-wrapping of AI is largely opposed to the media professionals writing panicked editorials about how they were able to trick an AI into saying racism is good.

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